More ranting and whining from the whiners club! If either one of you where current with this forum you would know that this post was a part of Grzbears question about this potential presidential candidate! So in effect you are both babbling about absolutely nothing and if anything discretiting the Grz! See how foolish taggin someone makes you both look? Don't you two bozos have anything better to do with your lives! Jesus trapper dont at least have to take the garbage out once in a while or do the dishes like a good domestic that you have become! How long do you think she is going to put up with you just hanging around the house?????