Re: more references to Wiki, on orgone and other

I found editing there was like wading through sewage fighting off rats along the way!, and outnumbered 20 to 1.

Thank god the man who got me onto it is too busy with his day job to fight the fight there any more, escaped for the time being! Full of allopaths (40 or so) and pharma boys by the dozen.

the main allopath deleted the old orgonite page, and tried to delete all of my pages. http://www.whale.to/a/wikipedia.html and I was being polite as they banned all links to wahle using some spurious excuse, and were on the path to chuck me off until I escaped out of their sight. They are in the process of chucking off the main alt med editor now.

One of the people editing that orgonite page now is a pharma boy.  The admin people are mostly pharma and they can watch what you post, so then they trot along and delete it or alter it.  Bit like having a nasty shadow.

Most people google now, before wikipedia, so it doesn't matter that much re orgonite, orgone.

The only way to win is to make your own page to someone they hate, as it is virtually impossible to put any text up they don't like on any other page already there.

john

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Wikipedia is based on a very radical idea, the realization of the dreams most of us have always had for what the Internet can and should become. Thousands of people, all over the world, from all cultures, working together in harmony to freely share clear, factual, unbiased information… a simple and pure desire to make the world a better place.

Look at any Wikipedia Talk page on any controversial subject, and, instead of "people working together in harmony", you will typically and unsurprisingly see a bunch of mediocre nerds with too much time on their hands and with rather uninformed opinions on too many subjects, bickering among themselves in an attempt to forge an entry that will represent a "consensus" of their uninformed opinions. And on a bad day, you might see among them a displaced person who actually knows something about the topic and has done actual research, being subjected to a hazing because he or she does not want to play along with the "consensus" game. And this is called "making the world a better place"? As for "clear, factual, unbiased information", we have previously described, in great detail, the concerted efforts exerted by Wales' "radical dreamers" to defeat various attempts to place such information in Wikipedia. And any thoughtful examination of any Wikipedia entry concerning a subject of any depth or complexity is likely to reveal, instead, 'information' that is muddled, distorted, factually dubious, often plain ludicrous, and always biased in the direction of mainstream opinion. And what else could be produced by "thousands of people working together"? What else but a "consensual" version of Usenet.

This is a radical strike at the heart of an increasingly shallow, proprietary and anti-intellectual culture. It is a radical strike at the assumption that the Internet has to be a place of hostile debate and flame wars. It is an appeal to the best within all of us.

"Radical strike" our foot. If you want to see "shallow", look at the Wikipedia entry for "Anti-Psychiatry", which mixes together R.D. Laing and Scientology, and references Tom Cruise as a top exponent of the "anti-psychiatry movement". If you want to see "proprietary", look at Wikipedia's recent deal with Answers.com, who will be offering a proprietary 1-click access to Wikipedia (more on that below). And if you want to see "anti-intellectual", just look anywhere in Wikipedia

http://www.aetherometry.com/antiwikipedia2/awp2_index.html