Wikipedia provides what can loosley be considered journalism that in turn follows a particular course and agenda on supervising and regulating the public's contribution to articles that Wikipedia otherwise polices. What that particular course and agenda is specifically is not necessarily a question to easily answer. A clue towards that endeavor may be found by one gettign their feet wet, so to speak, and dipping one's mind into a sampling of what Wikipedia presently purveys. Among the seemingly endless encyclopedic-like topics of discussion presently to be found sponsored and supported by the Wiki folks are topics on Wilhelm Reich and Orgone. Reich was of course the father of Orgone research & discovery such that his research, findings and subsequent experimental inventions lead to a fate for him near identical to the fate endured by many other brilliant minds, like Royal Rife and his own particular pioneering efforts and inventions - both were brutally stomped into the ground along with their work, research and findings in an effort by the collective u.s. government & their many publicly employed assistants to effectively expunge the existance of Reich, Rife, Hoxsey, Caisse and many others in the attempt to try and wipe them and their discoveries from the face of the earth. Reich's work with discovering the phenom of Orgone Energy, also known as and referred to by others with other terms such as Life 'Force, Prana, and Chi (kee) occured during the '40s and '50s. It would turn out to be many years after his death at the hand's of the u.s. establishment that a derivative of his work on Orgone - Orgonite, came into our lexicon. This is sort of natural fallout from the situation of great efforts having been put forth in an attempt to expunge the existance of a pioneering person; it often takes many years for later generations of people - if and when they ever able to reach such a stage, to one by one begin the process of unearthing enough clues about the former in order to have enough information in the present to proceed with and resume the pioneering. For the record, while prosecuting punishment of Reich, the FDA formally decreed "orgone does not exist". Remember this.
What follows is a recent post from Don Croft that starts out on Wikipedia and goes on from there to relate and tie into other topics, such as Reich & Orgone, as well as the kinds of establihment forces, like Facism and havy-handed government, that Reich was forced to confront during the latter stages of his pioneering life.
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Thanks, Satish--I've been watching Wikipedia for a couple of years and the idea is marvellous but the preponderance of institutional influence is pretty telling. The 'orgonite' article looks like it was written by a complacent FBI disinformant, for instance. If the process at Wikipedia is as genuinely democratic as is claimed for it, we'll see some genuine journalism there, eventually. If no amount of intelligent discussion will get that article changed, then at least we can point to Wikipedia as another evidence of clever subterfuge on the web.
I spent the first three years of my internet activity in this movement as a participant on three successive, compromised, saboteur-ridden forums and it was good training for me to understand how the enemy operates, though the only logical approach was for me to get off my intellectual butt and start my own forum (this one), of course. I invite anyone who hasn't yet met the enemy head-on, this way, to try his/her hand at injecting rational, helpful offerings into the Wikipedia talk forum, which you can bet is chock-full of saboteurs--probably including some familiar ones.
I think it's pretty well known, by now, that any substantive, informative internet presence will likely be purchased or otherwise co-opted by one or another CIA, NSA or MI6 front company, including Yahoo, EArthlink, AOL.com, Bill Gates, etc. To assume that Wikipedia. alone, would be exempt from a massive, concerted effort to control and censor its content would be naive. Note, for instance, that even though Wikipedia is a European site, the American Government was cited as having the last word on orgonite. As far as I know, no American alleged gov't agency has ever even mentioned orgonite publicly, much less studied it, even though several of us have survived numerous murder attempts by them. MOst folks don't realize that Reich also considered rational contention with this treasonous government to be a war. He even armed himself and his companions to protect Orgonon from intrusive, lawless feds and he was a terrific marksman, just like a lot of Swiss civilians are .
The World Odor has deep pockets and is frantic to own and control all media, though they're failing at an increasing rate to stay ahead or even keep up with an awakening human specie. The internet is, by nature, a grassroot, uncontrolled resource. My attitude toward the majority of 'information' sites on the internet, which are co-opted by the World Odor, is 'caveat emptor.'
Reich knew that the problem of fascism, which characterizes the World Odor since the 1920s, is not the assorted, sordid, 'common man' dictators, which the parasitic World Odor had thrust onto pedestals; rather it's been the spiritually lazy, self-seeking mindset of the Little Man (Pajama People), who had escaped the bonds of patriarchal religious hierarchies soon after the end of World War One. That's also when another form of fascist, organized mysticism, created by the World Odor, began to spread like a prairie fire (Theosophy).
Trading one form of organized mysticism for an even more destructive one (political fascism) was the main cause of the devastation we saw during the twentieth century but we're coming out of that, now, and are approaching maturity as a specie.
If Wikipedia won't keep up with the improvement of humanity it won't last. If they'll inject some genuine journalism into the articles that Satish mentioned, there's hope for that effort.
By the way, Reich considered liberalism to be as poisonous as fascism because liberalism is also based on suppressing natural urges, not on honoring the biological (heartfelt) core of our natures, which is untainted, inclined to responsibility and potentially productive.
This is probably why liberals (representing the passionless head and distorted passions in general) have traditionally been the most zealous warmongers in US and British history (all major wars in the past two centuries were initiated and controlled by the City of London, of course) and have also traditionally considered distant, non-representative government to be the arbiter of moral issues and general behavior. What the orgonite movement represents, rather, is Wilhelm Reich's grassroot 'work democracy,' which short circuits the various World Odor efforts to subjugate humanity through extortion, mind control, intimidation, false religion, the promotion of sexual promiscuity, Work democracy is the form of grassroot social organization that occurs spontaneously whenever people are not conrolled by arbirtrary, centralized institutions.
This is how everyone is now creating a world civilization, mostly without conscious effort. At least, that's how I see what's happening in the world and the dolphins we've encountered apparently concur but of course my view isn't colored or directed by the What To Think Network or by other forms of organized mysiticsm. Institutionalized people call this form of social dynamic, 'anarchy,' but anarchy, just like fascism, is a purely mystical concept, not a functional one.
Can you see how this relates to Wikipedia? I'm saying that if this is truly a grand gesture; a spontaneous effort to present unbiased information for no charge to the public, the people who run that site need to step up and take responsibility for it and not be railroaded by the World Odor extortionists. Otherwise, genuinely inquisitive people will consider Wikipedia to be no more viable than any number of other disinformation sites. We really should only care about function, not advertisement.
Satish, I also would like for people to attempt to influence Wikipedia to produce a more informative article on orgonite. I think success would be phenomenal and I think it's possible. Thanks again for posting this suggestion.
~Don
I found editing there was like wading through sewage fighting off rats along the way!, and outnumbered 20 to 1.
Thank god the man who got me onto it is too busy with his day job to fight the fight there any more, escaped for the time being! Full of allopaths (40 or so) and pharma boys by the dozen.
the main allopath deleted the old orgonite page, and tried to delete all of my pages. http://www.whale.to/a/wikipedia.html and I was being polite as they banned all links to wahle using some spurious excuse, and were on the path to chuck me off until I escaped out of their sight. They are in the process of chucking off the main alt med editor now.
One of the people editing that orgonite page now is a pharma boy. The admin people are mostly pharma and they can watch what you post, so then they trot along and delete it or alter it. Bit like having a nasty shadow.
Most people google now, before wikipedia, so it doesn't matter that much re orgonite, orgone.
The only way to win is to make your own page to someone they hate, as it is virtually impossible to put any text up they don't like on any other page already there.
john
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Wikipedia is based on a very radical idea, the realization of the dreams most of us have always had for what the Internet can and should become. Thousands of people, all over the world, from all cultures, working together in harmony to freely share clear, factual, unbiased information… a simple and pure desire to make the world a better place.
Look at any Wikipedia Talk page on any controversial subject, and, instead of "people working together in harmony", you will typically and unsurprisingly see a bunch of mediocre nerds with too much time on their hands and with rather uninformed opinions on too many subjects, bickering among themselves in an attempt to forge an entry that will represent a "consensus" of their uninformed opinions. And on a bad day, you might see among them a displaced person who actually knows something about the topic and has done actual research, being subjected to a hazing because he or she does not want to play along with the "consensus" game. And this is called "making the world a better place"? As for "clear, factual, unbiased information", we have previously described, in great detail, the concerted efforts exerted by Wales' "radical dreamers" to defeat various attempts to place such information in Wikipedia. And any thoughtful examination of any Wikipedia entry concerning a subject of any depth or complexity is likely to reveal, instead, 'information' that is muddled, distorted, factually dubious, often plain ludicrous, and always biased in the direction of mainstream opinion. And what else could be produced by "thousands of people working together"? What else but a "consensual" version of Usenet.
This is a radical strike at the heart of an increasingly shallow, proprietary and anti-intellectual culture. It is a radical strike at the assumption that the Internet has to be a place of hostile debate and flame wars. It is an appeal to the best within all of us.
"Radical strike" our foot. If you want to see "shallow", look at the Wikipedia entry for "Anti-Psychiatry", which mixes together R.D. Laing and Scientology, and references Tom Cruise as a top exponent of the "anti-psychiatry movement". If you want to see "proprietary", look at Wikipedia's recent deal with Answers.com, who will be offering a proprietary 1-click access to Wikipedia (more on that below). And if you want to see "anti-intellectual", just look anywhere in Wikipedia
http://www.aetherometry.com/antiwikipedia2/awp2_index.html