Hi Raymond! You sound like youre well on your way to getting better. Im lazy and get easily discouraged when things dont give instant results. Ive tried detoxi-pads and had brown/grey results. The main thing I noticed was that I had better dream recall. I really believe a Liver Flush [or ten] would help me. Still have to find the time and prepare b4 hand. Did sensible Health give you any instructions, so u knew which herbs to take in AM & PM? I get confused at which to take for what. About Clarks flush, did you use the ornithine, I think its to help u sleep. The idea of Epsom Salts really turns me off. I may combine a couple of flushes. Still havent decided. Marj