Re: none of you are getting the point

"this man, GW Bush, is doing dreadfully sinful disgusting acts of atrocities in the name of Jesus."

You mean like David who was not only "a man after God's own heart" but while on the run from Saul, destroyed Isreal's enemies, Villages of men, women and children.

Be very careful of who you judge. We don't know the motives of others, sometimes we don't even know our own motives. Judging leaders will bring Divine Discipline, even if the judging is done "in the name of Jesus".

"what is going on is an abomination, it is that simple. and no christian of national prominence, and most self professing christian i know personally, refuse to speak up at all even to say, "yeah i guess torturing children may not be exactly what Jesus intended for us to do."

Please ask our Heavenly Father to show you your right Pastor and sit under him for a couple of years before you make comments like this. Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God.