thank you for the information. i had a guy use those tactics on me in a chatroom, but i didn't know he was part of a larger organization. what i noticed about him most was that he knew the bible very well, which i thought was unusual since he wasn't a believer (what we are interested in, we tend to know more about). i also thought how dangerous this person could be to someone who didn't know their bible very well. he inspired me to study my bible better with a view for defending the truth. the full armor of god is important with these kinds of attacks.