Raider...try this site they sale in bulk at a good price....I can say I very much like Dr.Schulze formula 1 and 2...but to each his own what works for some may not for others..I can say it was the best thing I have ever tried and believe me i have tried them all.....http://www.shepherds-rod.org/HEAL/shopcart/packages.html
good luck...Anita