Tracy you had me almost in tears, your such a brave woman and I understand exactly what that is like, to see friends suffer the way you did. And being helpless, it is not most horrible thing. I'm so glad to have met you and all these other encouraging people, I think we will learn and gain alot from each other, I already have. But I am really really new to this, I have only heard about Dr.Schulze routines in the last two months, so as you can imagine I'm soaking up as much info as possible. I do have a question for anyone that is reading this though. What do you do for someone who has had bowel cancer that has moved up to the kidney? I need some new info and although I have some great stuff thanks to this site and also a tremendous thanks to Tom, I don't know how to put a routine together for this person that is suffering from this horrible malady. If you could share some pointers I would really be very very greatful. Elaina