yea joshua, while wat u say makes a lotta sense, it was a lil different for me. i cut for about four months and thank G-d i was able to get out of it. but what you said on the bottom, about focusing on the eternal pain- for me i think it was more about being able to LOOK at my pain and look at my hurting. i understand now about the whole endorphin stuff but i didnt know about that until i had even stopped. not only was it numbing but it was alot about instant and very momentary understanding of why i was hurting, and the scars reminded me of that . i guess what kind of got me out of it was realizing that numbing the pain or diverting it elsewhere didnt make it go away. i dunno watver