Although my personal opinion means bubcas (old jewish word for nothing), i just gotta say i agree with you - surgery is so permanent. doctor's don't believe that stones form in the liver, traveling to the gall bladder, so why would they see an alternative to surgery? my 2 cents- Liver Flushing is the way to try, and then if that doesn't work or is harmful in any way, surgery is always there if needed.