why don't you try doing a liver flush? The pain can also be gall bladder symptoms. The Epsom Salts in the Liver Flush are magnesium sulfate which relax the bile ducts of the gall bladder. Thus the mag in those veggies also help per the relaxation of ducts. Be warned though: a Liver Flush is not a one time thing, but an undertaking of about 20 flushes to remove all stones. If you're finding relief from high magnesium veggies, you might want to consider using just the Epsom Salts . They would relax liver/gall bladder and flush intestines. Just an idea. :)