If evertyhing has to be defined before it can be discussed,then we'd all be in a right pickle wouldn't we.Eg.Can someone define death to it's FINAL conclusion.Oh yes you'd draw your conclusion but would that suit everybody,of course not.This forum began about six weeks ago,no-one agrees on any definition, so does that make the SUBJECT defunct,I should hope not.One could pull apart any Forum if definition is required before it's discussed.So if one wishes to kill off a Forum all one needs to do is to try and DEFINE it.So let's please drop the KILL tactics or shall we all just go around and define all forums,and kill an excellent programme because common sense has not prevailed.Tom.