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Re: I'm just calling them out as scripture says
 
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Re: I'm just calling them out as scripture says


You're welcome! Just thought that part definitely needed to be pointed out. The blood of Christ is our only hope as I see it.

This is the dilemma for non-calvinist though: the bible never speaks of Christ's blood, his death, as just a possibility of saving anyone, but it speaks of it as a surefire victory.

Besides the verses posted above which reveal that, here's another one:

Col. 1:
21 And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, 22 he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him.

Christ's death was guaranteed to succeed exactly as it was planned to, exactly as the Father willed, not just be a possibitly for success.

“All that the Father gives to me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out… And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day” (John 6:36, 39).

Isaiah 53:11
11 He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities.

If Christ bore the iniquities of every single person who ever lived, then all would be saved, and then universalism would be true. But we know that is not the case because the bible does not support universalism.

So it's either that Christ's death just made salvation possible but didn't actually accomplish salvation for anyone (and if that is the case, what Kevin Thompson says is true, and Christ's blood didn't save anyone, only made salvation possible) or Christ's death actually saved all that it was intended to save, and the latter is what I see the scriptures to be saying.

“It is to beggar the conception of redemption as an effective securement of release by price and power to construe it as anything less than the effectual accomplishment which secures the salvation of those who are its objects. Christ did not come to put men in a redeemable position but to redeem to himself a people”.
---John Murray

Romans 5:10
For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

If every person who ever lived was reconciled to God through the death of Christ, then everyone who ever lived will be saved by His life as that verse says.

Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us” (Galatians 3:13-14).

If Christ becoming a curse for us in that verse applies to everyone who ever lived, then every person who ever lived is redeemed.

You can go through each verse about Christ's death and see if it works out to apply it to everyone who ever lived but you will find that the only way it works out, is for universalism to be true.

The song is catchy, I agree. So much so, I can't get it out of my head now. :)

 

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