Re: Pope Points the Way to False Enlightenment

"Have you repented from all the awful beliefs that you brought into this forum? A big reason people don't want to even talk with you now?"

youre going to have to be more specific. i have talked about a lot of things trying to get a conversation going. no subject is taboo in my book. i dont have to believe something to talk about it. "awful beliefs", huh? like believing the whole world is wrong, including the religions? what part of "major religion" dont you get? we have the bible to correct us and keep us from false religion. you chose the false religion that abuses the bible the most. what can i say? bad choice.

or maybe the fact that the trinity is a false doctrine. thats just made up papal claptrap. and frankly, i havent concluded yet about all of the particulars. am i a monotheist or a polytheist? the jews see christianity as a polytheistic religion and so do muslims. the trinity is just a mental construct to explain away calling jesus the one true god. unfortunately for all those who believe that, the bible does not say that. it says he is the son of god and first of many brethren.

anyway, people not wanting to talk about the things of god and the bible has nothing to do with what i believe. people claim they are free, but they are not if they cant discuss god with someone they dont agree with. they are in a cult that is enslaving them if thats the case.

"I may not understand all things perfectly when it comes to end times, but I do know that Jesus is mentioned all through the bible, pointing to Him, especially within prophecy...and there is no excuse to not see it once the Holy Spirit opens our eyes to it. People either see it or they don't. The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy."

you keep equating prophecy with fortune telling. youre wrong. a prophet is one who speaks the same words as god.

Proverbs 13:17
A wicked messenger falleth into mischief: but a faithful ambassador is health.

people have all this fantasy built up around certain words. take "angel" for example. an angel is a messenger. it is not the creatures people imagine. gods angels are his messengers. they bring his words. and words are?????? spirit, of course. and they are devices of creation. angels are spiritual, prophets are physical. angels can take on a human form in order to deliver the message OR a physical form, not even necessarily a prophet, can deliver a spiritual message.

Hebrews 13:2
Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

screw this "waa waa waa, you dont believe like we do so we dont want to talk with you." how is that biblical? how is that godly? how is that treating others the way you want to be treated? huh?????? thats why i know there is something most terribly wrong with this group. they are fearful, unstable and supersticious as hell. gods got nuthin to do with that. you entertain only the strangers you agree with? or deem worthy? naughty, naughty, naughty.

2 Corinthians 5:20
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

that is what you are trying to do and fail. an ambassador is someone who represents a ruler or other dignitary with not only the words of the ruler but certain limited powers to make decisions and act on that rulers behalf. the ruler trusts the ambassador. what the ambassador does is binding on the ruler. its not a game. you cant fake it. and you cant judge my ambassadorship out of existence and make it meaningless. the bible is meaningless to many people. does that make it untrue or any less applicable? as i have said, you and the rest of this bunch have some very strange thinking. you literally think because you know the magic words and can recite them that thats all youre required to do. thats voodoo. thats a pagan religion which addresses god with much repitition. god uses people like that for chewin tobaccy.

you say jesus is mentioned all through the bible. well, wrong again. he IS the bible. he is in every word of it, not just the churchy crap that people like to focus on to make them feel good. the bible is not there to make you feel good. usually, if it does, you dont understand it. the should scare the crap out of people, if they have a brain.

"Are you agreeing with this forum that you see it? If so, then let's rejoice that we all agree on that point. All this other type of posting of videos about NAR or the Pope being the anti-christ or a third temple being built is merely our own discernment of what we read in scripture. We all could be wrong about our discernment...but we will never be wrong to trust the mystery of Jesus within scripture."

youre spittin and sputtering here. every one of you have done some kind of backpeddling dance about things. even with all your griping and childish behaviour i can see the effect i have had. i have tightened up some thinking and added to some understanding here. how? why? because i only use the bible and it always is effective. the only alternative is to not read or participate but leave and not look back. no one has done that. so there is still hope. for you people, not me. i will never lose hope.

those topics you discuss are nonsense. its a fallacious approach to the entire subject of the bible. none of you believe all of it so none of you will be able to understand any of it. its a seamless garment. it cannot be broken. and yet you part christs garments like the soldiers at golgotha and dont bat an eye. chop chop chop the scriptures up and see how far that will get you. i see how far its gotten you so far, and that aint much.

there is no mystery for the elect.

"So either we all agree to stop discerning what we see coming based on the bible and taking a chance of being wrong, or we agree that we are allowed to 'watch' for His return based on what scripture and the Holy Spirit shows us."

sorry, i dont share in your opinion. you continue to parrot these words like you know what they mean. i use the words based upon known meanings.

1 Corinthians 3:20
And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

it doesnt seem like the holy spirit has shown you very much. what about my question about the day star that peter talks about? whats that about? you know what my ideas are and you dismiss them outright. whats the answer?

1 Corinthians 6:5
I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

1 Corinthians 10:15
I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.