RE: ... Deceptive Accusations I came across 2,000 to 10,000

RE: ... Deceptive Accusations I came across 2,000 to 10,000 PPM.

"High potency CS is not impossible and was quite common in the past with products such as silver protein etc. Though these types of solutions have since lost favor after being linked to the development of a number of Argyria cases, drawing attention from FDA and public scrutiny. It's also worth mentioning that such concentrations(ppm) were accomplished with teh ue of additives so as to overcome the saturation limits of the solutions in question."

While I have to agree with you on the Issue of Silver Protien that changes the Ionic Composition, you cannot say "One Size Fits All" when it comes down to different types of colloidal products.

"That said, there are numerous individuals and sellers on the market today claiming to offer very high concentrations Colloidal Silver solutions under the guise of what is often referred to as "new science."

Kindly post the links, because many are indeed buying from GoldenGevity and marketing as their own.


'Which incidentally lack any and all of the scientific methods required to validate them and where these have been debunked numerous times through independent testing as being nothing more than very weak solutions being falsely labeled as higher ppm's solutions."

That is a completely FALSe statement meant to deceive the average reader who is not likely to do any research.

Gold2live had their products tested by the WORLDS LARGEST Testing company to VALIDATE high PPM Concentrations, Chemical Free Composition, and metal content.

Why is a certificate from such a well-known testing facility valid?

Estee... I am glad you asked!

Companies that you and other promote on Curezone, allegedly make claims as to particle size, and chemical free composition, of course, conveniently done by their own INHOUSE Laboratory.

They state that they have their own equipment...blah...blah blah.

And make false claims to justify their pathetic low PPM Worthless products.

The reason they do not submit their products to WELL KNOWN, Well Recognized Independent laboratories is because they would be exposed, the REAL chemical composition would be revealed, and the REAL Particle size be exposed.

'labeling a 4000ppm silver solution will most always lead constituents to interpreted this to be the amount of silver in solution"

Again more deception - The certificate of analysis displays the amount of silver they found in a typical bottle but with the TDS verification from an ACCREDITED TESTING FACILITY.

People like you use deceptive marketing ploys by trying to discredit products that you cannot compete with.

ITS a known fact, people are buying Colloidal Solutions NOT Silver Bullion.

The amount of silver has nothing to do with the effectiveness of the product; any educated person can come to the conclusion that the smaller the particle size, the easier it can penetrate an object.

Yes with a High PPM Concentration of Atoms will have LESS SILVER than the BULKY Nanoparticles that can never penetrate a virus.

Most nanoparticle producers do not really know what they have proof of this is done by Griss's post that points to:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2861249/
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2301585

Proving that nanoparticle get stuck in the skin cell membranes, a fact that the Mayo Clinic informed consumers about, except they went a step further and stated that nanoparticles can also get stuck in the kidneys.

NANOPARTICLES are unsafe, while atomic particles will never do what nanoparticles are known to do and that is cause Argyria, or cause Kidney failure. The atomic particles are just too small.

However, the 4000 PPM Concentration allow more tiny particles to penetrate pathogens at an unparalleled rate of speed, you have more tiny bullets that 10, 20 PPM of pathetically impotent nanoparticle Colloidal Silver .

'which raises some serious questions on the toxicity of solutions containing no less than four(4) grams of silver, which could easilly harm if not kill any person having the misfortuned of ingesting even modest amounts, should the concentrations prove legitimate. - for example"

You have not done any analysis to claim that there are 4 grams of silver in 4000 PPM, NO FACTS NO EVIDENCE to substantiate you deceptive claim.

"Which falls right in line with industry standards and the current body of scientific methods and research."

Again... The KNOWN Industry standards are for NANOPARTICLES, Atomic size particles meet and exceed the standards for PURITY, PARTICLE SIZE and High PPM Concentrations of such.

"RE: ...what is the maximum silver content (PPM) of a stable solution?"

That depends on the SOLUTION, How many particle will the solution withstand before they drop to the bottom of the container? The darker the color the more chemicals are accumulated which are really TOXIC.

If you are talking about impotent nanoparticles (that also contain ions) they come in all types of chemical colors and are very toxic.

"In cases where this pertains to Colloidal Silver solutions without the admission of chemicals, the theoretical limits of silver particulates in distilled water will range at/or around the 21ppm mark under nominal conditions(temp, solution type etc)."

Again that ONLY applies to nanoparticles.

RE: About CS fraud

1. The claims are too good to be true

Answer: Justified by common sense physics and Certificate of Analysis from ALS Environment a VERY REPUTABLE testing facility, which you and all you constituents fail to provide.

2. The Science is none existent -
Answer: You are in denial, many 21 century findings have found the God Particle (Higgs Boson) and many other subatomic particles. People like you would still be in the Horse and Buggy days.

3. Failing verification

Anser: FALSE Verified by a Certificate of Analysis

4. Untestable and/or measures taken to avert testing

Answer: Pointless no need to submit products to competitor to test, since there is a third party independent testing facility that has already done that, and they carry far more credibility than a company that was made in alliance with a colloidal silver producer.

5. Expensive (short term profits)

COMPLETELY FALSE - Any product can be diluted to lower ppms and produce far more than anything else on the market:

//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2301904#i

6. Does not live up to the claims (contradictory observations, etc)

The company has been openly selling these products since 2006,
with lots of success, if it had been a scam, they would not have lasted this long.

For the sake of complying the Terms and Conditions of Curezone, I cannot post links to supporting information, I suggest that you READ

Atoms vs Nanos
Atomic Particles
Toxic Chemicals

From the Gold2live Website.


"hope this helps"
(you must meant "misleads"