Got it sorted. Mainly I think the water I was using was too hot for the electrode spacing I was using. So lowered the temp and put more space between the electrodes and this batch turned out very nice. Crystal clear with a touch of gold color. Yeah I don't plan on putting the H202 in it, need to do some more reading on that subject. There's allot of disagreement on what's even the best type of "CS" anyway. Reduced particulate or ionic? Seems most of the actual results indicate that the straight ionic with no alterations at all works very well indeed, and possibly some of the "advanced" (expensive) CS might actually not? Thanks