p.s. I have contacted both companies to find out if their "natural vanilla flavoring" is derived from beaver butt. I have not heard back yet. Not that I'm vegan, I'm eating eggs, fish and fowl and take pig thyroid and fish oil. But the kids are on a major campaign against beaver-butt "natural" vanilla flavoring. It is totally unnecessary, and not cool the way they sneak it in by just calling it a natural flavoring. Off-topic perhaps, but yes I do read labels carefully.