Yeah bro you to man!!! I'm the exact same I hate talking to anyone with glossy lips it's very embarrassing! What are your thoughts on methotrexate? It's designed to slow down cell turn over... I think it makes sense... I'm very disappointed about imuran... Pretty certain it's not worked I'm on week 13 now I thought it was looking good for a bit but yeah... I hate these lips so much! Also what's this thin layer that you get is it just like normal skin or is it ec skin I pressume it makes it still uncomfortable for you? Does it just fall off in the shower like normal cycles??? And also what's your next move of treatment??? Hope ya have a good Chrissy! I'll check the forum in a day for your reply! I'm going on holidays for a week! Peace