Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Where did these [mk-ultra] techniques came from? People's memories? "Accidental" discoveries? Or the very critters who invented it in the first place?

I would submit that, perhaps, the basis for these kind of techniques were initially cultivated within the Theosophy Movement, notably, by way of Charles Webster Leadbeater, associate of Annie Besant, in the attempts to create a "World Teacher". I suspect that this is where such techniques found their beginnings. Leadbeater is noted to have also been an upper tiered Freemason. I believe by then, the Illuminati had many that were members of both these secret societies.

 

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Elo6Im4oD8

There seem to have been several candidates that had been selected by Leadbeater. In 1906 Leadbeater was accused of having encouraged adolescent boys, pupils under his care, to spank the monkey. Roland Vernon writes:

"It came to light that Leadbeater had been teaching his boys self-gratification, and had been encouraging them to practise it regularly...

"Leadbeater had in the past repeatedly stated the importance of sexua| purity." There is much evidence that Leadbeater frequently shared beds with his pupils.
Source: Star in the East: Krishnamurti, the Invention of a Messiah by Roland Vernon, Constable, 2000, page 164.

Around 1907, 11-year-old Hubert van Hook of Chicago was selected by Leadbeater as the possible Messiah. Hubert later swore that Leadbeater had 'misused' him. Mary Lutyens, in Krishnamurti: The Years of Awakening, had this to say regarding Leadbeater and another of Leadbeater's favorite boys:

"Leadbeater came prancing down the wharf ... holding on to the arm of a very good-looking blond boy of about fifteen.
This was Theodore St John, an Australian boy of great charm and sweetness, who was Leadbeater's current favourite and who slept in his room."

Krishnamurti

In 1909, while in India, Leadbeater "discovered" handsome fourteen-year-old Jiddu Krishnamurti at Adyar. Leadbeater believed Krishnamurti to be the new Messiah, the World Teacher. Leadbeater stayed in India until 1915, overseeing the education of Krishnamurti; he then relocated to Australia.

Not sure of the credibility of the source of the following, but there is this quote from Leadbeater's own writings about the importance for Freemasonry to understand evil & its relationship to God:

Black Masonry as it was taught by 33º Mason, C.W. Leadbeater. Not only was Leadbeater a prominent Mason, he also was an influential Theosophist and worked closely on many projects with the head of Theosophy, Annie Bessant. Leadbeater, according to some sources was a homosexual pedophile. According to Leadbeater, Black Masonry is degrees 19 through 30 in the Scottish Rite and are known as the Council of KADOSH. In the following quotes, "Knight K. H." is the Masonic abbreviation for Knight Kadosh. In the following quote from Leadbeater's book, Ancient Mystic Rites, he defines the scope of Black Masonry and talks about its relationship to evil, suffering and vengeance.

Few indeed of our Egyptian brethren appear to have passed beyond the Rose-Croix, for only the few needed anything further than the splendid revelation of the indwelling Love of God which they received in what we call the Eighteenth Degree. But for those few who felt that there was yet more to learn of the nature of God, and who eagerly wished to understand the meaning of evil and suffering and its relation to the divine plan, the prototype of our Black Masonry existed, the teaching and progress comprised in our degrees from the nineteenth to the thirtieth. This section of the Mysteries was especially concerned with the working out o f Karma in its different aspects, studied as a low of retribution, from one point of view dark and terrible. This is the inner kernel of truth lying behind the vengeance-elements in the degree of Knight K.H.

After Alice Bailey took over the reigns of the Theosophical Movement after Annie Besant went by the wayside, it appears to me that Theosophy slipped further into darkness, as Freemasonry adopted much of her Theosophical writings... published by Lucifer Publishing Co.

Just my thoughts in this regard...
turiya