Re: Do it: urban agriculture;make a lawn a food forest

Okay Chiron got to that video.

Many of the impressive aspects of this video are due to the young/new garden aspect. There are concerns.

Garden issues can often be localised. I do not know that environment at all. I comment in the general so to speak.

I do not see enough variety to sustain a complex diet. For example there is little discussion\presence of tree carb sources or root crops although there is one good, uncommented on, taro. Perhaps there are more there than shown. The density of the plantings will make future plantings (very) difficult. In particular longer term maintenance of all the systems will be difficult because maintenance on a day to day basis is now already difficult. Maintenance should be considered before starting and is usually why these types of systems fail longer term.

The density of the plantings will mean poor production longer term. The soil renovation systems although well considered could be improved. The complexity of the fertilizing processes could be enhanced and need to be longer term. It will look more like a "SAD for soil" from an organic perspective if different nutrient sources are not developed.

Although the tree plantings are good I cannot see any consideration given to tree carbs sources other than moringa. Again perhaps there are more than discussed. Are manihot an issue there? Many more are available. And related root crops also invite the same comment.

Talking my environment: I would not have any crops if I used the systems employed. Wildlife would get the lot.
Here all horticultural systems need irrigation. Strong ongoing use of complex fertilizations (I am not talking artificial fertlisers) are important here to maintain and build soil microbiological health. I am talking: urine, animal ferments, liquid manures of many sorts, different varieties of mulches. And substancialy more use of perrenials is important to our longer term food cycle.. The perrenial collection displayed on the video is an impressive start. Most of the annual cropping shown will not do nearly so well as the tree crops mature.

Let us see a repeat viewing in five years time. I'm not sure Eli would be so confident of his achievement charming as it currently is.

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