Re: Is Grzbear biased?

 Here is an example showing Grzbear's bias and TOS violations:

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1809493#i

>>"Reading your post, it struck me that it's very different from your usual style. It almost seems sanctimonious and one-sided, IMO, and I was surprised to see such a detailed analysis posted in so little time. It made me think "don't you have an 8-hour a day job?""<<

Perhaps it did seem a bit one-sided... I view Hv as the initiator of the turmoil due to his posting style - the drawing of *first blood* - the provocateur, and have stated as much.

First of all as the WM pointed out previously, making the posts about an individual is a TOS violation.  As for his claim that I drew first blood and was the "provocateur" this constitutes an attack and is not even close to the truth.  I have NEVER started attacks here on CZ.  Yes, I have fought back when attacked first, especially when repeatedly attacked by people such as Unyquity, Dquixote1217 and Grzbear himself.  So I see his lying about my actions as being an attack as well since he is attacking my character by his made up "facts".

One person disagrees with Hv... and he seems to take the gloves off.

Another attack by Grzbear.  I have had plenty of disagreements with individuals on these boards that were quite civil for one simple reason. They did not attack me.  I treat people with the same level of respect they show me.  If they want to disagree nicely I will do the same.  If they want to act like Grzbear and attack me every chance they get then I will do the same in return since that is all they seem to understand.

This is NOT the behavior of a professional. He has a forum, sells products, and needs to be more *accountable* for his actions than the average poster - he has a greater responsibility that comes with *rank*.

So what does this say about Grzbear's actions since he is also a moderator.  If he is to be held accountable for his bias by allowing attacks against me and attacking me repeatedly himself then what is his accountability?

Other forum owners behave, and stay inside their own forums for a reason. 

They do?  You mean Unyquity and Dquixote1217, who are both forum owners, have not been going in to multiple forums attacking me?  Gee, I would have swore that I have seen them posting attacks in numerous forums including the Acid/Alkaline Debate forum that you moderate and allow these attacks against me!

>>"And it's happening fast. When I started this post, there were 6 alerts on this thread and now there are 7. And I'd guess that Wombat's post got a good-alert from a Moreless supporter?"<<

Regardless of whether it was a good or bad alert, I will not be rating, editing or deleting a post, or any other posts that can discuss both sides of ANY issue with a modicum of decorum.

Grzbear's translation: "I will only allow posts that attack Hveragerthi as I do myself frequently, and will ban anyone and remove any posts that discuss acid/alkaline balance as opposed to alkalinizing the body".

I believe that *A LOT* of people misinterpret my stance on this issue so I will clarify a few things...

I understand the alkaline/acid *BALANCING* principles as just that. it IS the reaction of *acids* and *alkaline* substances against each other from any source that produce a *form* of energy, that then drives metabolic reactions in the formation of various substances.

Not necessarily true.  We are talking about pH balance in the body.  There is a lot more to this than the reaction of a mineral with an acid, which does release energy, but not necessarily for the body.  When someone drinks alkaline waters the alkaline hydroxides react with the stomach acid neutralizing the stomach acid releasing energy in the form of heat.  The body has to expend more energy to remove that excess heat to prevent damage to the tissues.  So that energy is not a benefit to the body, it is a detriment.  In addition the neutralization of the stomach acid leads to various states of disease and disorders.  Furthermore, the body also regulates its pH through respiration. Simply exhaling carbon dioxide reduces carbonic acid levels to normal.  This is why respiration increases when acidosis is present and it slows down when alkalosis is present to conserve carbonic acid.  That is part of acid/alkaline balance and does not involve the reaction of  minerals with the acid to produce energy.  This is why actual debate on these principles needs to be allowed.  Otherwise people are simply listening to bogus alkalinizing principles that lead to various diseases and disorders.

There is not ONE person here that would argue against our need for:

Fatty *acids*
Amino *acids*
Carbohydrate *acids*
and any number of vitamin *acids*

I sure hope Grzbear is not implying this is me again.  I am the one that has posted on this concept so many times here on CZ that we need numerous acids to exist and survive including amino acids, fatty acids, and the "vitamin acids".   For example in this post  http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1502701#i where I state:"

In fact we need a large number of acids to survive and thrive. These include hydrochloric acid, pyruvic acid, acetic acid, carbonic acid, hyaluronic acid, glucoronic acid, malic acid, lactic acid, citric acid, uric acid, fatty acids, amino acids, ascorbic acid, pantothenic acid, folic acid, etc.

 

And most pathogens are killed by acids and thrive in an alkaline environment. This is why the parts of the body that help protect us from pathogens are normally acidic. These include the skin, stomach, intestines and sinuses."

Not sure what Grzbear means by "carbohydrate acids".  Carbohydrates are not acids.

Certain herbs, work on certain *ails* due to that particular plants ability to concentrate certain minerals, among other things.

Astragalus concentrates selenium, zinc, and iron among others...

But it is not the minerals that give astragalus most of its health properties. It is its polysaccharides, sterols, saponins.......  If minerals were all that we needed to stay healthy then we could sit around and eat clay all day and be perfectly healthy.  Of course this is not how things work in the real world.

I am an advocate of clean, nutrient dense, mineral rich diets... and a practitioner of the the *alkaline - acid* balancing principles.

You are a practitioner?  In other words a "professional".  So have your actions of attacking me and allowing other attacks to occur simply because I posted evidence you were wrong on numerous occasions the "behavior of a professional" as you stated above in your attack on me?  Seems to me awful biased again since you set one standard for yourself and another for me.

Long ago they found that they had to *supplement* animals in the industry with over 45 different *minerals* in order to help prevent diseases in them...

What does that tell you?

Nobody has claimed that minerals are not important.  Just like vitamins are important, acids are important, oxygen is important, water is important.........  But the whole health issue is not dependent on alkalinizing since alkalosis is just as dangerous as acidosis.  Yet you ban me when I present information on pH balance but allow all the Moreless supporters, including yourself to post freely about alkalinizing the body with no regard for the dangers of creating an alkaline imbalance.  Again this proves how biased you really are.

These days, diseases are starting to rear their ugly heads... in spite of this mineral supplementation... what does that tell you about the mineral poor, GM, cide laden foods that they are feeding them with?

Again, health IS NOT all about simply having minerals.  A person can eat clay all day long for minerals and will end up dead shortly.  A person can eat a high mineral diet and be under a lot of stress suppressing their immune system through the adverse effects  of cortisol on the thymus and adrenals.  A person can eat a high mineral diet and live next to a leaking nuclear power plant and still die of cancer.  A person can eat a high mineral diet but smoke depleting their vitamin C levels leading to severe immune suppression..................  As a practitioner I would really have thought that you understood these concepts.  Again, this is why open debate should, and needs, to be allowed.  Nobody has all the answers, and people often over look the most basic of concepts such as those shown above.  Debate allows us to see things that we may have overlooked and allows for the presentation of EVIDENCE to back claims.  In fact that is what debate is about.  It involves taking a stance and backing that stance with evidence.  Not simply making ludicrous statements such as the one you made in this post http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1808050#i

"Throw those old textbooks away Hv... they are misleading you."

Was that debating?  No, it was being childish, not the behavior for a professional.  

Again those are DEBATE boards where debate should be allowed, not just the concepts you agree with.  There are support forums where people can post all the proven misinformation they want.