Re: Moderator - question?

Hv, and grassman were banned for a number of reasons... Including many, many *bad* alerts on their posts.

In fact I avoided banning them for months in spite of these *bad* alerts, and their *bully*, immature behavior towards others.

>>"(posted by Hv, who said he was banned from this forum)

"You mean like your posts frequently do. By the way how does it reflect on you when you make an implied threat on me offering me $500 for me to give you me personal information so you can find me?!!!! By the way I saved the post to make sure it did not get deleted or edited. Here is your quote:"

(he's quoting patientadvocate here)

"p.s. i'll pay you for your contact information mr. dangerous! i will pay you for your address, place of employment and full name!!!!! i got an attorney who would like to send you some very informative data. i'll put $500.00 into escrow, you give me your contact information. ""<<

do you have links to the post(s) containing those *quotes*?

I rarely read everything - not enough time in the day.

Hv along with grassman are provocateurs through using statements like these in their posts...

>>"So luckily your hypothesis is bogus!!!"<<

ROTFLMAO!!!! Where do people come up with this garbage?!!!!!

LOL!!!

And from posts of Hv's I have edited out...

>>"While you are trying hard to back the sunlight is acidic bogus claim why don't you also try to explain to everyone here how the "photoelectric effect" backs your claim. Photoelectic effect involves the release of electrons from certain substances when exposed to light. So are you really implying now that electrons have a pH? ROTFLMAO!!!!!! The alkalosis troll's claims just keep getting more and more ridiculous!!"<<

>>"Just like the statement about Lewis acid, which is electron pair receptor. Again, the trolls really think that electrons have a pH? And how does this back the bogus claim that sunlight has an acidic pH?
I would also like to see your proof that vitamin D is a Lewis acid as you state. Or is this just another of the many alkalosis troll lies?"<<

Calling people Hv disagrees with *trolls* and *liars* is unacceptable and technically, against TOS.

>>"You hereby acknowledge that egoistical, arrogant, egocentric or unfriendly use of CureZone Forums and Blogs may result in termination of your access to CureZone. You are welcome to CureZone only if you are willing to share non-personal information and opinions with other CureZone users."<<

And...

>>"You agree to not use the Service to:

* "stalk", "annoy", "irritate" or otherwise harass CureZone members

* "stalk", "annoy", "irritate", "attack", "accuse", "threaten", "abuse", "defame", "harm" or otherwise harass CureZone moderators

* harm minors in any way;

* make available any content that is hateful, abusive, harassing, offensive, threatening, defamatory, libelous, harmful, vulgar, obscene, unlawful or otherwise objectionable
_____

Hv's posting behavior is Very caustic... acidic if you will. And shows behavior that is socially immature and unacceptable.

To correct this, Hv, could use terms like *false* instead of *bogus* with 3+ exclamation points, he could dump his trash talking, and terms like "garbage" (again, he could use the term *false*), ROFLMAO, LOL, calling those that disagree with him *trolls*, *cults* and other derogatory terms, etc. Especially when he follows those statements with multiple explanation points.

I can tolerate a lot of personal abuse myself, however, when Hv writes to provoke others with his caustic behavior, he will be banned. His enabler\side kick grassman was banned too... for egging the behavior on... also a display of social immaturity.

I will not tolerate this form of bullying, and tag teaming behavior here against others.

>>"I'm wondering why Hv gets banned but another poster gets an R for insulting and threatening him?"<<

Where did the other poster insult him?

Here?

>>"Gees! Dude! Got to get an eight hour a day job. Your dissertations are rambling, miss the topics, use a lot of theory, hearsay, personal beliefs. True you back up some stuff with actual data but doesn't negate the other issues."<<

That paragraph gave me pause RE: the R rating and could have been omitted IMO. However, I did not *interpret* it as an *insult*.

Hv made the statement...

>>"Yea, that is for sure!!! Notice how quiet they got though once all their pseudoscientific garbage was exposed as fraudulent?" That is the problem with making up facts. There is always someone out there that will expose the fraud of the claims."<<

Because they did not respond right away to his post, he likely *assumed* they had *nothing* in rebuttal, when in truth, most folks have little time to sit down and be on a computer all day, having jobs, families, and social lives that may prevent responses for many hours, days or even weeks in some cases. So he gave a *caustic* response, accusing those who disagreed with him of *fraud*, pseudoscience, etc.

//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1808374#i

or, here?

>>"Disagreeing with someone else doesn't make you an expert in patient's eyes, it only makes them confused and you serve the role as messenger of that confusion.

Don't get defensive and use insults, it reflects poorly on Curezone and yourself.

Don't feel the need to argue every single point, a simple research link can do the job.

We should all be united in this regard. Chronic diseases are a curse of the devil. United we stand and divided we,...uh,...well you know!

Good luck! Use your knowledge, put your ego away. Welcome back."<<

That is actually good advice that Hv should take to heart... and a bit of a compliment IMO "Welcome back", which, buffered the opening paragraph enough, and suggests good advice, not just for Hv, but to everyone posting in a debate forum to R rate it.

We can discuss things civilly without immature, caustic behavior.

What Hv is doing, is EXACTLY the kind of posting behavior that got ML banned into his own forum, and then kicked off of curezone entirely for a time.

if you wish Hv to stick around... IMO, he needs to learn to greatly temper his caustic behavior towards others he disagrees with and post his apposing belifes in a respectful manner... even if another does not... and then perhaps he will begin to receive *respectful* responses.

I see Hv, and grassman as a team of provocateurs, especially when it comes to Alkaline/Acid balancing principles, but also when it comes to *his* herbal solutions as apposed to others, as he laid into Schulze and others with the same *caustic* behavior... whether you agree with me or not, I chose to ban him and grassman for their behavior that IMO broke TOS.

Again, provide me links to patientadvocate's *offending post(s)* in *this* forum so that I may review them.

Note: that if these posts are located in another forum, I likely can do nothing about them as I am NOT a global moderator... but merely a local one with limited abilities.

grz-

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