I would...Re: what would you do ?

(great reply/info ginger4jeff!)

Howdy Anne!  A million apologies for the delay/s.  You (nor anyone else) is being forgotten or ignored - I'm just so far behind it's unbelievable (over 5 pages of 'post alerts' in my inbox in the last 2-3 days...just sorting through them and reading them all will take the better part of a day).  Anyway...

well went to see doc today to discuss the h-pylori test outcome .
she wants me to go to surgeon to have the scope/light run down my throat as she is concerned at what may be going on with me and my stomach issues and of course the h-pylori Of course, invasive/harmful tests is what they "do" :::sigh:::

I am torn here.. I wanna find out if anything major like stomach cancer (worst scenerio) is the cause . Which I dont think its that but still curious  Why are you torn? You have all the symptoms of h.pylori ulcer, you have a solid/confirmed test that shows you're positive for h. pylori, and you know how to heal yourself naturally.  And you're actually considering a very invasive test with known risks, that could worsen your condition and make it even HARDER to heal yourself...because you're "curious" about cancer?  Why not  heal yourself of the h.pylori first, and then see if you have any remaining symptoms?

Anne, without looking anything up on the 'net...what are 8 symptoms of gastric cancer?  Do you have any of them?  If you don't know, or don't have any of them...why would be 'curious' about cancer?

A good learning experience for you would probably be to go to your posting history and read about 20-30 of your posts.  I think then you'd see what I'm seeing a little bit more clearly.  Many times it seems like you actually want them to find something seriously wrong with you; and sometimes it even comes across that you want them to find something so you can say something like "Yes! they finally found "it". The root cause of all my problems!!"...what is that  ? over 5-6 years posting on CZ and you've known for virtually all of them that your liver is seriously compromised...but you've only done 'how many' liver flushes?  Something just isn't adding up.  I dunno - I'm not "accusing you", I'm just trying to help you put together the pieces. 

Pardon me while I :::sigh::: and wonder...  just what is it going to take for you to truly believe that 'modern health care' really is the first leading cause of DEATH in the USA?  It's not cancer, not heart disease, not diabetes, not accidents, not AIDS, not the worst disease you can imagine.  It's a 100% proven fact  - going to the doctors, following their advice, having their invasive tests and/or taking their drugs...IS THE FIRST LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE USA!  When a doctor is pleasant, let's you talk, explains things nicely and doesn't have a problem with you using herbs...do you know what that doctor is?  A tentacle of the first leading cause of death.  Please read! Understanding me/Unyquity VERY IMPORTANT SCHULZE STUFF  (please honor the time I am taking to respond to you, and read/reread the article in that link...I might actually 'quiz you' :)

You know what Dr. Christopher said, right? "There are no incurable diseases, only incurable people...and those whose time has come".   Which one of those do you think he would say you are? 

If you're not someone that will do everything it takes to heal yourself naturally...then you're an incurable person.  And sooner rather than later, an incurable person will be a person 'whose time has come'.  And if that incurable person hands her body over to doctors to plow her body with xray radiation, exposes herself to life threatening pathogens in hospitals & doctors offices, allows them (even encourages them?) to cut into her body while being poisoned by anesthesia drugs... for unneccesary tests (on top of already allowing them to carve out your gallbladder)...then that incurable person's "time" will come a LOT faster than she would like.  That's just a simple fact.  It's not my opinion or my 'discernment', it's a fact.

Anne, putting your body and confidence in the hands of the first leading cause of sickness & death, in order to make sure you don't get sick or die...is what?  You fill in the blank ________.  Are you really _______?

and then again ..no insurance and money is an issue here and also the fact that I will be put to sleep for a few minutes and cannot drive myself home after . she did say it would probably only cost me 75 outta pocket for the procedure but dangit !  Money actually has nothing to do with.  If you had $5 million, the money would have no bearing on the choice...

I told her about me taking the DGL and that I ordered me some mastic gum ..she didn't know what either one was of course but did not say anything against it just that she hadnt/doesnt research stuff like that and the only cure she knew of was the antibiotic therapy !
and went on about that this bacteria can cause stomach cancer and so forth

she did respect my research and me trying to find natural alternatives and said that if it works then that would be fantastic but that there was no guarentees that it would .

although I do know there is no guarentee with the antibiotic therapy either obviously or I wouldnt be fighting this again ..DUH! And the antibiotic "therapy" would destroy your gut flora along with all the other extremely rough adverse effects those drugs cause...not to MENTION the stress on your poor liver.

If you're scared of cancer, are you remembering what Dr. Gerson knew (and many other healers have reported for decades).  "We never see cancer unless the liver is compromised".  So taking drugs that would compromise an already compromised liver IS extremely dangerous for you.

I have read that low stomach acid can set anyone up for getting this bacteria but its so hard to believe that with all the heartburn I have . I suspect that my hiatel hernia is worse now than before too . especially with the weight gain I have had over the past few years .

First, examine these 3 diagrams (particularly at the location of the stomach & esophagus, and how the transverse colon and liver press directly on the stomach and the area below the stomach).  You'll have to "melt them together" to get a good overall 'view' because these anatomical diagrams are all substantially different.

The facts:

It is impossible to feel stomach acid in our stomach.  If we could feel it, we'd all be doubled over in pain from the day we were born.  Our stomach is designed to create/store stomach acid.  The ONLY time we feel stomach acid is when it goes UPWARD into our espophagaus.  When that happens we call it "heartburn" "acid stomach" (both wrong descriptions) or GERD - gastro-esophghageal -relfux-disease.  And while it is 'gastro-esophageal', reflux into the esophagus is NOT a "disease"...it's a symptom of two possible things:  1) the stomach is not making enough acide (or the acid is not strong enough) so the food that's mixed with the acid is not being broken down enough by the acid for the stomach to dump it...and as the food gives off gas, the gas forces the food/acid mixture into the esophagus...and we feel it burn.  Or two, a swollen, engorged fatty liver (which you have) and a swollen, engorged, impacted transverse colon (which we all have) is putting pressure on the stomach, and that causes acid to go up into the esophagus.

Mouth to rectum = one long convoluted tube.  When we put things in the tube, they're supposed to go DOWN the tube.  Anything that stays in the tube too long, starts putrefying and giving off gas...so we've got a blockage that's shooting 'gas pressure' upward (as well as downward).  That gas pressure and blockage (especially if combined with weak/lack of stomach acid) provide the pressure that causes hiatal hernias and acid reflux.

Common sense, if we have a tube that things are supposed be going DOWN, and we know the things that are supposed to be going down are giving off major amounts of gas as they putrefy (mixing with the constant gas being given off by the mucoid plaque and other prutrefying junk and parasites)...AND we know that tube is constricted and narrowed by the build-up of a lifetime.  Well...the way to get things moving downward is what?  RIGHT!!   CLEAN OUT THE TUBE!

(I had horrendous acid reflux before my first good colon cleanse - it went away completely before the cleanse was even finished).

castor oil packs do make me feel some better
coffee enemas sometime leave me really weak though so I am taking a break from them for a few days until I figure this thing out .

continuing to take the DGL and aloe vera juice and today has actually been a pretty good day for me all in all as I have felt some better as far as energy goes but stomach is still giving me problems of course but not as bad as what it was yesterday .. but having heartburn from hades !

still throwing in a pint of juice daily to help me feel better and to get some extra nutrition

IF#1 is not an option for me as my stomach cannot tolerate it ..it's not your stomach that can't tolerate it, it's your esophagus that can't tolerate it. but IF#2 seems to calm my tummy but dont wanna create a clog here

so the question is ? what would you ?  I would never-EVER consider have a gastric-scope.  I would drink prune juice, or any fruit/dried fruit that 'make me go' (figs, dried/fresh apricots, prunes, etc), and I would do at least 4 rounds of EFT daily focusing on whatever emotions and beliefs that are holding you back from believing that doctors/hospitals/drugs ARE the main leading cause of death, and if you continue depending upon them, you'll likely be a statistic .

You've already allowed them to carve out a vital organ because initially you couldn't get your 'head around liver flushing, then you were in benzo-hell from a drug they gave you and couldn't do the flushes...and you're still not believing how dangerous "modern medicine" really is. 

More procedures, more xrays, more invasive tests, more drugs = more compromise and more liver compromise = cancer.   And if you get cancer right now?  Honestly Nola? I love you to pieces gal, but here's barely any doubt in my mind you'd be so afraid, that you'd choose chemo & radiation before natural healing...then you'll come back to natural healing, but your body will be too compromised for it to work. 

EFT for "why I seem to have fear about healing myself naturally"; "why I can't seem to believe how desperately I need to prioritize this healing"; "why I'm more scared of natural healing than I am of the consequences of 'not doing it'? "why do I still believe that doctors and tests are the answer"  And why do I have all these reactions several hours after taking herbs, when true allergies and food reactions happen within in minutes?

And that's what I know (and would do) about that!

Healthiest of blessings,

Uny