Ah, I see Mouseclick started that one. I didn'teven know it existed. He's a member of this forum--used to be active. Wonder why he didn't want to use the Natural Hygiene forum. I think what happens with CZ is so many forums start from a kind of 'splintering-off' impetus, that they just die out. There is nothing really to sustain them, apart from a desire to break away. It's a bit like negative attraction at work.