Re: DAY 11 today but will use this for next 9 days or so.

I think you bring up some good points and make them well.
I have read those things you mentioned.I have read and read and read. To be clear I have taken green tea CAPSULES not drank green tea in bottles from store in put Sugar in cups of it. I have stopped now on them as think too much caffeine in there is keeping me from getting as long a sleep as should get although dont feel lethargic feel good. Just knocked off 30 minutes on treadmill at pretty good clip..around 3.5 mph. Jogging speed not running speed.
But remember I am still 238.8 not in the best of shape and have to work my way up to faster speeds and running.

I think some of you people and even some doctors have their opinions.Remember most doctors are pretty much anti fasting as is most of the uninformed public. One of my friends that knows I am on day 11 Water Fast thinks I will be dropping dead anyday. He is more likely the one to drop dead anyday he is like 60 pounds overweight ,does zero exercise and lives on pure junk food.And is a smoker as well.

I think its pretty simple. You burn up glucose first,takes a couple of days to do this.You maybe feel a bit weaker at transition. Then your body if you have excess fat and everyone has some turns fat into ketones and away you go. End of story. Having a bit of carbs/glucose is not going to stop that for very long if at all.This logic makes no sense. So if that was true primitive man would not have any food from unlucky hunting for a few days and then might eat some fruit he found in the forest and that would make him go into starvation and then his muscles would waste away and all the other bad symptoms of starvation would decend apon him!
Don't think so.
What about juice fasting? You are taking in carbs,glucose.
But as long as you take in less than body needs body burns fat don't it? At a lower rate than on water only but juice fasters burn plenty fat.
And low carb people go into ketosis as soon as level of carbs goes down low enough and people on low calorie diets burn off fat. Starvation response is much thrown out word but not sure there is really any proof it actually exists.

You cut calories down you lose weight. Might slow a bit but if you keep cutting them you lose .People don't live on air!

I may take the multi every few days or maybe not at all.Seen some recommend it but can't remember what sites or books.Some people also do drink teas on technially a Water Fast and some chew Sugar free gum and some drink selzer water.
All these people seem to do ok ,lose lots of fat,don't lose much if any muscle unless they have used up their fat stores. If you are worried about some mythical spirtual effect like chewing a piece of Sugar free gum is going to stop you from seeing God or something then give your head a shake. And never met a doctor yet that was always 100% right about everything. Fact fired my first in series of doctors when was only 13.I had terrible stomach pains in my right lower stomach and he told me I was just nervous as was doing a bar mitzvah the following day. I looked up my symptoms in old 80 year old book we had at home on medicine,told him I had appendicitis.He told me I was a stupid know it all kid and blew me off.
Next day I was in emergency getting my very very nearly ruptured appendix taken out. Doctors.. what do they say about lawyers at the bottom of the ocean joke...a good start!

So fast how you want but appreciate suggestions but not preaching.Although if some of you want to have heated discussions not afraid am a big boy and can handle them. Fact good arguments can get the old blood going and make us forget about the recipes we plan to make post fast.

While many religions have used fasting and some still do that don't mean the two are tied at the hip necessarily.I don't need God to get me thru a fast. Its my own willpower that does that. But will let you know if see him or if he talks to me from the fasting. I like to keep an open mind.I am more Agnostic then Atheist when push comes to shove!