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Wow Uny, you've totally outdone yourself.  :::grin::: I do my best :)
Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into researching this and writing all this up, your generocity it truely amazing  You're more than welcome, of course.
I just a couple of quick easy questions (I swear).  One is the calcium formula says it has outstraw in it and I thought I read that the nerve regeneration tincutre has oat tops (but looking at the apothecary I didn't see oat tops in the formula so maybe I read something wrong somewhere).  Yes, the Calcium formula has Oat Straw and the Nerve Regeneration formula has Oat Tops (picked when immature, in their "milkly stage").  I just corrected that in the Storefront (I have no IDEA how that was missed).  Also, I added to the description.  Dr. Schulze included Ephedra in the Nerve Regeneration formula (an herb that has been used for decades without harm), but since the PTB have "scare-conditioned" the vast majority of people, we made the Nerve Regeneration formula without Ephedra (and tinctured the Ephedra separately, so we could add it, or not add it...and people prefer).  So if/when you order it, please note in the order whether you want it with (or without) Ephedra.  I've sampled it both ways (so has Rocky) we feel/sense absolutely no difference.

I know technically oats are supposed to be gluten free it is how they are processed that makes them glutenous but If there is even like a 1% chance that either of these might contain gluten I would prefer not to use them.  Whatcha think?  I just don't know if the oatstraw would be a problem, and I don't know if it is one of those things where technically it isn't gluten but still a chance that it could be near a glutinous part.

I agree - as I understand it, oats are gluten free - any problem would come from the oats growing next to grain that contains gluten (or being processed in a facility with glutenous grains).  Since we're dealing with oats that are organically grown for their use as herbs (and wheat, barley & rye are NOT grown for their use as herbs), it is highly unlikely "organic herbal oats" are cross-contaminated (either by growing next to glutenous herbs, or being processed in the same facility).  Of course, there's no way to know this "for absolutely sure".

I truly believe both of these formulas would be extremely beneficial to your healing...and that the chance of them containing gluten is extremely unlikely.  So, here's what I recommend...that you get them both, and test them very "conservatively".  Start by abrading your skin slightly with a fingernail file and applying 3-5 drops topically, and see if there's any reaction (other than what you'd normally feel from the alcohol).  If no 'reaction', then take 1-5 drops sublingually - if no reaction, then double the amount and test again...and so on.  Taken sublingually, they should absorb into the bloodstream with no contact to the intestinal tract.   If no reaction, then great.  If you have a reaction, then let me know and we'll 'credit you' with the cost (and you can use them after you're healed or give them to someone else...we don't 'take herbs back', not even unopened/sealed bottles).  OR, you could order small quantities of all the herbs except for the 'oat ones' and make a tea with them (or tincture them yourself).  If you want the "recipes" just let me know :)


The only other question I have (I think) is regarding this
Lobelia also affects the vagus nerve which controls the stomach. A small amount of lobelia has the effect of calming the stomach, decreasing nausea, and relieving stomach cramps. Large amounts of lobelia can act as a purgative instead of an emetic, but the end result is the same; emptying the stomach of its contents.

I just want to make sure I get this right...it sounds like it says it has an effect on the vegus nerve but it almost sounds like it says a little has more of a calming effect and a lot has a purging effect.  Or  am I wrong and a little acctually has a stimulating effect so that is why I should take a little before and after meals?  I hope that makes sense. Yep, it makes sense, but I don't know if my answer is going to or not! lol  

Lobelia is one very strange and wonderful herb...and it's very hard to explain (and the 'underlined explanation' above doesn't suit me at all).  Let me see if I can clarify: The vagus nerve is responsible (in full or in part) for many things...one is the stomach emptying, another is our gag reflex.  If one takes large doses of Lobelia, it will stimulate the vagus nerve enough to cause vomiting.  But if one takes 'less', then the vagus nerve is stimulated, but not to the point it causes vomiting.

This line makes NO sense:  Large amounts of lobelia can act as a purgative instead of an emetic  ('sorry I missed it before), because a purgative and an emetic are the same thing :::eyeroll:::

Lobelia works the same way in the bronchials...small doses will relax and open the bronchials (and stop an asmthma attack *snap* like that) - but large doses will "depress respiration".   Lobelia has a very slight (and nice) "calming effect"; and just like Echinacea causes your tongue/mouth to "tingle weird", Lobelia causes your tongue/mouth to feel "scratchy weird" (and it takes kind of acrid/vinegary, because the tincture is 1/2 alcohol, 1/2 ACV).  The scratchy feeling is very similar to a cat's tongue (I thinks it's a fun feeling).  I suggest (for typical usage) starting with 5-10 drops, easily working up to 1-2 droppersful.   This is one for you to experiment with as far as "effective dosage" - all herbal dosages are "person specific", but Lobelia is even more so. (If I take 2 droppersful, I can hardly stop from falling asleep; but it doesn't even phase Rocky when he takes 2 droppersful) 

And don't forget to use your stethescope to help you figure it out.  Locate your stomach and your stomach's pyloric sphincter, then listen to your "stomach sounds" when you haven't ingested anything for awhile (right before you go to bed and when you wake up).  Then listen immediately before you eat/drink, and then 5-10 minutes afterward.  Then 30-45 minutes afterward.  Get a good idea of what "normal sounds like" in those situations, then add the Lobelia...first with 5-10 drops (before and after eating/drinking) and listen/sense what's happening.  If you get 'something' but not enought of 'something', then the next dose try 10-20 drops and keep working up the dose until you're hearing/sensing the stomach emptying (most people have no problem with 30-60 drops/2 dropperfuls, but take it slow - I know one guy that is HIGHLY sensitive to herbs, that took one dropperful/30 drops for anxiety and immediately threw up...but that only happened to him one time).  Also, don't hesitate to add some massage - at this point I think you want to 'throw everything you've got' at getting your stomach to empty so you can start getting the juices/nutrition "in" and "out" :)

Thank you again soo much and thank you Ginger for the support.  It gets me through the touch days!  You're soooo welcome!  It's what we're all here to do :)

Heal ON!

Uny

April

 

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