Re: Setting the record straight

 Actually, the moderator (that would be me) has never stated that cancer cannot be caused by a virus, but rather that not all or even most cancers are caused by viruses. 

 

We have known about cancer viruses for about 100 years.  And human cancer viruses have been known for a long time as well.  I have posted known examples numerous times.  For example you don't think it is well known that hepatitis viruses can cause liver cancer?  Or that human papliloma virus can cause cervical cancer as well as a number of other cancers?  Or that Kaposi's sarcoma can be caused by human herpes virus type 8?  And what do you think David "the bubble boy" died of? He died from B cell LYMPHOMA he got from Epstein Barre Virus he got from his sister's bone marrow.  And what about the four human T cell leukemia viruses INCLUDING HIV?  Many cancers have been linked to viruses, but people don't bother to do their homework before making statements of denial.  I posted more evidence recently:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1556071#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1556072#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1556077#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1556060#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1556066#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1556068#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1556089#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1556056#i

 

These cover only a small portion of the viruses known to cause cancers.  Again I have posted more extensive lists.  And there are more being found all the time.  So this is not some tightly held secret in medicine.  All someone has to do is to take 5 minutes to research the subject to see how much research is out there on the subject.  And as i pointed out in the past Discover magazine did an article a while back on oncogenes (genes that cause cancer).  They pointed out that EVERY SINGLE ONCOGENE FOUND TO DATE WAS VIRAL, and that NO HUMAN ONCOGENES HAVE EVER BEEN DISCOVERED.

Neither have I stated that cancer can be caused by cellular hypoxia, but rather that he believes that cellular hypoxia is a result of the process that leads to cancer which most often begins due to a prolonged inflammation

 

Problem with this hypothesis is that inflammation INCREASES oxygen levels to the tissues.  When we are injured inflammatory prostaglandins dilate blood vessels in the area to INCREASE oxygen and nutrients to the injured area to help promote healing.  It is the alteration of the DNA, especially from cancer viruses that affect the cellular respiration of cells, not a lack of oxygen to cells.

or exposure to a carcinogen. 

 

Radiation is a carcinogen, but this is because the radiation breaks chromosomes. The broken strands of genetic material reattach where they can leading to changes in the metabolism of the cells. Again this has NOTHING to do with lower oxygen levels to cells.  Radiation can also lead to immune suppression due to its destructive effects on the bone marrow.

Likewise, the moderator believes that the pleomorphic process of cancer involves a viral stage.

Not all cancer microbes involve pleomorphism.  For example the fungus Aspergillus niger that produces aflatoxins that can lead to liver cancer.  And again there are a number of cancer viruses. They are not morphing in to each other.

Insofar as moving threads, that happens whenever the threads become prolonged debates.  That is what the debate forums are for. 

And there is a rule that advertising is prohibited on the "public boards".  Yet I see you advertising for oleander extract on the cancer forums, and I believe you have a financial interest in the extract.  If this is the case then we have a moderator that is only following the rules that they choose to follow and is using their power to suppress any information they disagree with.  So why is it that you are not moving your advertisements to the marketing forum?

If I were to ban everyone who made insults and violated TOS (which I can only do in two specific forums), the those who trade insults would also be banned.

Anyone reading Justin's posts can clearly see that 99% of his posts are attacks on people.  In fact I posted some relevant information on the "Acid/Alkaline Support Forum".  Of course Justin had to attack me so the moderator there told me to stop posting there.  I did not realize that the "Acid/Alkaline Support Forum" was really the "Only Post About Alkalinity Since This is What the Moderator Believes in Support Forum".  From what I can see too many of the moderators on these boards are busy abusing their power for their own agenda.  So as long as they have people like Justin that is willing to attack people the moderators disagree with even though it is a TOS violation they just look the other way.

Yes, I do believe in oleander after having researched it for years and thousands of hours, written a book and several articles about it and have more experience with it by far than anyone else posting at CureZone.  Whatever its various mechanisms may be, it works most of the time.  That is more important to me than debating the science of it - though plenty of it exists.

I hope your ability to research oleander is better than your ability to research cancer viruses!!!

Regardless of the number of hits you get on a search, the fact remains that most people inside and outside mainstream and alternative medicine do not believe that all or most cancer comes from a virus.  Neither do most people by far believe that you can catch cancer from another person.

Again look at the research.  What I posted is just the tip of the iceberg in viral research in the cause of cancer.  You will be surprised at how much research has been done in to cancer viruses in the last hundred plus years since they were discovered!!!!

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