I started the Prostate formula (Saw Palmetto, Jiaogulan, and Pygeum are the only new herbs in it that I wasn't taking before) about 1 week ago and it seems like since I started I have again started to get painful urination about 50% of the time. The painful urination seemed to go away in the last 6 weeks or so, but now it's back. The doctor said that the painful urination was caused by mild Prostatitis, so I was surprised when it just started getting better about 6 weeks ago. I was thinking I would need to start the Prostate formula before this would improve, but instead the opposite occurred! I also have a testosterone level in the low normal range. I want to start the Tribulus, but I thought I would do the Prostate formula first in order to avoid my DHT from getting higher.