For Maiauetic...and EVERYONE (need yer help on sumpin' folks)

Maiaeutic (everyone) -

Even though this is 'in response' to specific questions/concerns by Maiaeutic, there is very important 'thoughts & thinks' in this post/thread for everyone...so I've posted this 'afresh'...the entire thread is here: http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1465502

I'd appreciate it if everyone reading would at least go down to the *** and offer your own 'thinks and thoughts' on this issue.  It is something that EACH of us has to deal with in one way or another, and we ALL need to develop & utilize tools & strategies for coping effectively & successfully.

 

>>So, please (if you care for more thoughts from me), let >>me know (fairly specifically): what a typical diet is >>for you weekly, all your 'continuing life stressers' and >>what type of EMF exposure you have daily (computer, cell >>phone, WiFi, microwave, powerlines, cell towers, >>etc)...and what you've done in the past 3 months beside >>the IF#1/IF#2. Also, what other supplements, otcs, >>and/or pharmaceuticals are you using (if any).

Weekly diet: Most days I have a bean and cheese burrito for lunch. This used to be chicken but I’ve now pretty much eliminated meat from my diet…though I am currently living with my mother and when she cooks chicken or fish I will occasionally eat it. But I would say in a typical week I don’t eat meat. Okay - 1) it's FANTASTIC that you've eliminated meat YAY!  But when healing, it's only logical to stop willingly putting things in our body that slow or prevent our body from healing.  I didn't hear "organic cheese", so this (particulary frequently) is OUTTA HERE!  It's laden with growth hormones (which can seriously & negatively impact many systems/organs --particularly the prostate in men--, and you get a  dose of pharmaceutical antibiotics with every bite...yum (not).  It's mucous forming and works directly against the colon work you're doing...and of course, the poisons above PLUS the others (all the cows are fed gmo grains, diseased body parts from cow/animal carcasses, and all the pesticides it's all doused with).  Your liver & kidneys are NOT loving you when you expect/force then to cleanse while you're compromising them at the same time.  And (of course), if that's a non-organic white flour tortilla and beans that have soaking in an aluminum can (beans processed with fluoridated water)...well,  let me know anytime if you need reading/research material so you can understand the basic necessity of not ingesting known poisons.  A typical weeks’ diet coinsists of a few oranges per day, a few peaches/strawberries and other assorted fruits as snacks. Salad with cheese and tofu two or three times per week, and also veggie soup (home cooked) and cornbread and tofu a few times per week.  Fruits are always good, as are salads.  Again, I didn't hear "organic" with the "tofu"...which means you're ingesting GM soy.  Soy is bad enough, but GM soy?  No joking, it really IS poison.  First 'reading assignment' - http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/soy/Magic-Bean.php

Extra credit:)  http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/gmo/genetically-modified-foods.php

As I stated in a previous post, I don’t drink anything except lukewarm water. Distilled or R/O filtered (???) If not, then be SURE to scan through this:  http://www.tuberose.com/Fluoride.html  I also will have rice pasta with pamersan twice a week or so, and other assorted cooked vegetables like squash, cauliflower, and broccoli. I also will have some raw cabbage a couple times per week as that is one of my favoites, though I do flavor it with table salt.  All fine n' dandy, except the table salt. It's much better if you use natural/healthy salt (I prefer Himalayan myself, but any salt from underground seabeds is fine).  It's okay to have a bit of cooked food once in awhile.  Just remember, that there's no enzymes there at all...so your body has to create the enzymes that should be in the food in order to digest it.  In the case of pasteurized milk/cheese, in order to make the enzymes that are missing, the body has to take from your calcium stores to make the enzymes.  So everytime you munch pasteurized dairy/cheese, you're actually depleting your body of calcium.

I am unemployed right now so there are no life stressors in that regard at the moment (big positive). I am in a new relationship but it does not cause me a lot of stress. I spend two or more hours in front of the computer daily, and a similar amount in front of the tv. 'Hope your new relationship turns out to be blessed :)  Dr. Schulze would tell you to make SURE the television is tuned to ONLY uplifting & positive programming (after he told you to turn it off! lol).  Frustratingly, with all the pharmaceutical commercials & propaganda, turning it off is usually a better option.   I know, I know, a couple of hours of TV doesn't seem like a big thing (especially compared to folks that are glued to it all day/night long) - but the frequencies ARE unhealthy (especially if you have a newer/HD tv), not to mention the subtle/negative emotional impact.  I don't watch TV (unless it's to play DVDs).  When I went to the motel for a week, I flipped through channels for 30-45 minutes before going to sleep.  WHOA/WOW...4 nights I found myself so depressed I was at that 'close to tears' place, and two night I really did cry.  That was some SERIOUSLY depressing/negative energy I was absorbing.  I'd never really noticed it before, but when I was alone with nothing else on my mind...well, I understood completely how correct Dr. Schulze is when he says 'turn it off'.  Do your best...each "little bit" doesn't seem like much, but when you add up the "little bits" they can be big enough to be something that negatively impacts or prevents healing.

I talk on my cell phone on speaker, I cannot hold it up to my ear for more than five minutes without feeling terrible. I use the home phone as often as possible and try not to talk on my cell phone more than twenty minutes a day. Personally, I have only put a cell phone to my head one time in my life.  It's radiation, plain & simple.  The only time they're not 'radiating' is when the battery is out...so be sure to remove the battery.  I'm glad to hear you're not using it often :)

I prefer reading but ever since accompanying my girlfriend to an MRI I have been having a hell of a time reading, or in fact doing anything productive. In fact that is ironically what led me to just bite the bullet and start doing the cleanses, because before the MRI I was feeling great and felt that just the IF 1 and IF 2 alone might be sufficient, and after that, even a week and a half after that, I still hadn’t returned to normal so I felt the need for a more extensive routine.  Check out this Google search: (radiation, bentonite)  http://tinyurl.com/nx2xf5  You could likely get a LOT of relief from the MRI exposure by doing bentonite baths, poultices and/or packs!   Just remember, you canNOT put bentonite into a septic tank.  The IF#2 "Ultra" has an extra part of bentonite, and you can always add, say 1/2 -1 teaspoon to each dose (bentonite is constipating for some, so you might need an extra IF#1 'kicker')

I do not take any other pharmaceauticals or supplements, and haven't for some time. FANTASTIC!!!!

>>So, let me start by screaming...NO! NO! NO!!!!! When >>our body is compromised, when our organs are clogged >>with structural debris and our body is malfunctioning >>enough to cause major symptoms...it is virtually >>IMPOSSIBLE to restore ANY type of "vitality" by leaving >>the body in a state of malfunction and sticking bandaids >>on the symptoms. Adding:  Knowledge IS the key to vibrant health - but that vibrant health in your body will happen much more quickly and effectively if the knowledge is in your brain!


If you say so, then I am willing to trust you and proceed with the cleanses. Some questions regarding the details of which will follow later on after I address the remainder of your questions/comments. RuhRoh Rastro...no can do (trusting me).  You be the only one that can be responsible for you - do not EVER trust me (or anybody else).  We're all being our OWN doctors, so if we're going to assume that very serious responsibility, we need to educate ourselves so we can do it wisely and effectively.   Watch the Natural Healing Crusade videos, read the class manual: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1394438 get the Save Your Life videos (and the 650 page manual) as soon as you can afford them.  Dr. Christopher's videos are on Google video (search youtube or google vidoes for either Dr. Richard Schulze or Dr. John R. Christopher - there's a LOT to be found).  Dr. Schulzes website has a LOT of videos.

Yes, I have dedicated 5+ years to researching in-depth the most effective natural healers that ever lived...while doing virtually every protocol & using every herb they used (and Rocky n' me, have dedicated the rest of our lives to help people health themselves via this forum and our apothecary).  BUT it's very important that everyone learns enough to at least know WHY what I'm suggesting is effective!  Because understanding the "why" of anything enhances: our willingness to utilize the protocols, our ability to be as disciplined as we need to be (and make the lifestyle/diet changes we need to make); our ability to troubleshoot, and ensures a positive end result :) 

At one time in school every one us has grumbled something like: "I can't 'learn it'/'do it' unless I understand WHY I need to learn/do it, but the teacher makes me memorize/learn/do without helping me to understand 'why' ". YET, even though the "why" of it (learning enough to heal ourselves and ensure vibrant health) seems as clear as "life or death" to me, likely 95% of all CZers continue to INSIST on depending upon others to do the 'homework' that is SO necessary to 'pass the test'.   And the test really IS a "life or death" test...and the final exam is something we ARE going to have to pass or fail!  (And let it be known, I worked at a Hospice for two years...failing the final exam is NOT something you want to do!)

>>Just wondering why you stopped?

I didn't stop taking the ashwagandha, I started when I first noticed the feeling of depletion, which was on Friday morning, and have been taking regularly since.  My error, >>>I have begun taking ashwagandha again<<< I thought you indicated you'd stopped.


>>I can't imagine why you wouldn't have been doing them both for the past 90 days...(referring to coffee enemas and castor oil packs).

A few reasons. First of all, money. I realize you're unemployed at the moment, yet castor oil and coffee for enemas are likely the two most INexpensive (and most effective) things we have going for us.  Enough castor oil for a month should be less than $15 and 2 pounds of S.A. Wilsons coffee about the same (enema bucket for only $6).  Second of all, doubt about whether they would work or produce a favorable reaction; :::raising eyes in true, legitimate curiosity:::  Really?  What (exactly, links if you have them) have you read or learned that would indicate that coffee enemas or castor oil would be ineffective, or cause an unfavorable reaction?   And/or what makes you suspect that? Castor oil packs have been safely & effectively used for centuries - and coffee enemas for almost a century (since discoverd in approximately 1917) ...and Dr. Gerson had thousands (likely tens of thousands worldwide over the past 1/2 century) of terminally ill patients doing 4-5 coffee enemas daily.  Not only must we have knowledge, we must have truth :)  I had a negative reaction to both the straight mega does of cayenne and had to (???) discontinue that, as well as the charcoal poultice. As I mentioned previously, it made me feel really clear-headed but it caused a real pain and soreness in my kidney area, also it made me feel tired and it was difficult to concentrate. So I interpreted that symptom to mean that I should stop.  I want everybody to listen to their own 'doctor within', yet it is imperative to filter the sensations & discernment through biological/physiological truth & facts...we should not make assumptions. 

Fact: Dr. Schulze/Christopher had EVERY patient taking 1 teaspoon of high HU cayenne 3x daily...there's record several patients took 10-12 teaspoons.  For Dr. Christopher, this 3 teaspoons daily was part his Mucusless diet. 

Fact: Cayenne "opens up" and increases circulation - whenever we open up circulation through a system or organ that has had 'lack of flow', we will "feel it" in some way or another.  That's not because it's doing harm, that's because it's doing what it's supposed to be doing in a body that is compromised. 

Fact: Cayenne powder increases peristalsis and kills parasites, so various gurglings, slight cramping, unusual intestinal 'activity', and ALL symptoms of parasite die-off are to be expected as part of healing

SO, when you say "mega doses", how much are we talking about?  With the powder, one is supposed to start at 1/8th teaspoon 3x daily, working up to 1 teaspoon 3x daily.  Describe how you worked up to 'mega doses', and what your reactions were along the way that caused you to feel you should stop.

OR did you just 'force down' a lot for a day or two?  And whichever way you ended up on mega-doses, what were the other variables going on those days?

You report this regarding activated charcoal poultice on kidneys:   I have tried the charcoal poultices and cannot do that...though it made me feel very clearheaded I experienced a pain in my kidney area and loss of vitality with that as well.  Was this doing it one time?  What were the other variables the day before and day after that might have caused kidney stress?  Fluoridated/chlorinated water, food from aluminum cans (more fluoride AND aluminum), GM foods, was this during the kidney cleanse, lack of adequate hydration?  Any/all of those things (or any myriad of other things) is FAR more likely to cause ache in your kidney area than activated charcoal (one of THE safest and most beneficial substances in the world). 

Activated charcoal aDsorbs (pulls to itself) thousands of poisons & toxins.  If any of use an activated charcoal poultice and it results in discomfort, the very first thing to assume is that it pulled a LOT of toxins out of the body/organ...and it's only natural this process could cause a bit of discomfort.  However it's even MORE likely that one would feel discomfort DURING the process (or within hours afterward); any discomfort the next day could be caused by any variety of things.  Of course, there could be some tenderness after have toxins pulled out of anything.  Maiaeutic, read/scan through 10-15 of these links and after explaining why you chose to use activate charcoal poultices, let us know what/why there is about activated charcoal that made you assume this was harmful or non-beneficial to your health/kidneys: http://healingtools.tripod.com/ACP_pages.html

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>>Methinks you'll be ever-SO-much-better, ever-SO-much->>faster, if you'll put aside what seems to me to >>be 'fear' (see: EFT!!!!) of every little reaction >>& 'dip/bump in the road',

The only reason I fear the "bumps in the road" is because they sometimes signify that I am losing ground overall rather than gaining ground. Sometimes pain, suffering, discomfort means you are doing the wrong thing, and that is the only reason I am concerned about it.  I understand (exactly).  BUT I also understand that we have to (as above) filter these issues through the ole 'truth & knowlege' filter.  Possible example - everything you've posted indicates 'kidney compromise' (and it seems every time you do anything 'kidney related' you end up in 'kidney discomfort' or with "lack of vitality".  That's to be expected.  Nobody goes about unclogging and decongesting an organ without some type of 'fallout'.  In your newest post you say:  First of all it is definitely the kf that is causing the devitalized feeling. I know this because twice since my last message i have begun the kf again, and twice I have been totally depleted and sore in my back at the end of the day. So both times I discontinued the kf even though i had planned to just push through whatever happened, for reasons I will elaborate on below. then you say that you started doing the hot/cold showers (good for you, btw!) and you've had less kidney issues that you had in a long time.   Here's how that goes through MY "filter"...you spent another day or two working on your kidneys and felt 'devitalized'...then (by way of hot/cold showers), you increased blood flow & circulation through your kidneys (all blood circulation through the kidneys, so anytime you increase circulation in general, you increase circulation through your organs) ....and lo & behold - your kidneys are MUCH better.  That's a HUGE (and very typical) VICTORY!   Now you're starting to fit those pieces together to "get the picture".  It seems very likely (and always has) that your kidneys are extremely compromised...and any/all "direct work" causes discomfortant and other symptomology (this is SO typical).  And then a day or two after doing the work, you feel better (again typical)...add the hot/cold, and you got better, faster!   So now you know that (perhaps), it's better for you to work on your kidneys 1-2 days at a time with a 1-2 break in between to get that circulation revved up to flush all the junk you've loosened out of your kidneys.  I dunno about you, but I'm thrilled!!

Example: Five years ago I tried a "different" detox regimen, that I had complete faith was going to finally heal me of all my mental and emotional distress. I took niacin, sat in a sauna for hours and took boatloads of vitamins every day for seventy days, twice as long as it took most other people to finish that program. By day 65, I was constipated, hadn't had a BM in two weeks, had 103 degree fever and was vomiting every morning. Still I kept going, kept trying to push through. The eventual result being that I was hospitalized, they took my white blood cell counts and told me they were so low I could have easily died from an opportunistic infection.  Hmmm, sounds like maybe MMS?  Doesn't matter, it sounds ALL too familar.  We cannot do heavy detoxing (saunas/niacin) which dissolves a brutal level of poisons from our tissue and dumps it into our bloodstream....without FIRST opening up the organs & channels of elimination!  I'm SO sorry this happened to you.  You're not the first (and sadly, you won't be the last).  Here's a fairly 'quick read' that will really assist your healing pathway:  http://curezone.com/schulze/handbook/3months.asp


If I KNOW for a fact that what I am doing is going to help, then I dont care about pain, I dont care about discomfort, or temporary inconvenience, or suffering, or any of that. I have been suffering every day of my life for fifteen years with this s%^&, if I know the answer is around the corner then I will do what it takes, without compromise and without shortcuts.  That's a great attitude - and after what you've been through, I really admire your strength :)

I am willing to trust you here Uny, because I believe in this approach and am willing to take your word for some of these things. Also please understand that I wont be a "true beliver" until I've crossed the finish line, and I always have to balance the advice (your advice, anyone's advice) against the wisdom of my own perceptions. I have ignored the latter in the past with nearly disastrous consequences.  And you please understand, that I don't want you to trust ME, and I certainly do NOT expect anyone to be a believer until they've walked the walk.  I'd rather you look at everything I suggest as a total lie, then study the biological & physiological fundaments (and each herb and how it works in the body)...and prove to yourself that what I've suggested is valid.  BUT, I also understand (quite well) just how LONG it takes to do that - and that virtually no one that's even 'slightly seriously ill' has the time or energy to do it (even if they do have the time).    I have a request, and that's this: please stop trying to "balance" my (or anyone elses) advice against your own perceptions and reactions.  And try to stop drawing conclusions based on reactions without knowledge.  When you have a reaction or hear/see something that doesn't "sit right" - then post it (AND post all the variables of the days before the reaction or whatever issue for which your needed answers & resolution).  If you do that, I promise I will do my best to be sure and answer and give my OPINION (based on the knowledge and research I've done), as well as offer more information/links - and then YOU can take that information, search the other links I offer (or those you have found)...and use it to interpret the reactions & signals you're getting from your doctor within.  'Sounds like a good plan to me :)


.....OK, Something else occured to me while answering some of your questions here:
HOW MUCH juice is one supposed to drink while on the kf or lf? Becasue I only had two oranges' worth of juice each day, I am suddenly thinking that might have been part of the problem in my KF. Also, I did not really do the potassium broth until the last day, so maybe that played a part in the feeling of depletion? Whatever it was, I can say that I feel much better here a few days later, surprisingly enough.  Again, it's not at ALL surprising or unusual for people to feel like dung when they're flushing a compromised organ, and then feel better a few days later.  When juice fasting on the 5 days cleanses, a gallon of juice/potassium broth is the goal...PLUS all the herbal teas and water you normally ingest.  The juice/potassium broth provides the vitamins, minerals & enzymes you need to support your body as it cleanses and restores your organs.  AND the energy that is normally used in the process of digestion is diverted from that process and freed up to help your body cleanse and restore itself :)  So yeah, if you only had a couple of organges worth...that had a lot to do with your 'depletion'.  Think of your body like a high-performance auto...and cleansing/healing like The Indy 500.  When does your body need THE most top-grade fuel?  When running the race!

So in summary, after reading your answers I am planning on once again doing the KF and LF simultaneously this week, starting on either Tuesday or Wenesday. A few questions about that process follow.  I don't understand your reasoning for wanting to do the KF & LF together on the same week.  If you were doing a KF and started having severe/alarming liver or gallbladder issues, I would definitely say 'go for it'.    But Dr. Schulzes protocol is 5 days on Kidneys, then two days of rest - then 5 days on liver, the two days of rest - then repeat.  Unless you have a reason or issues that I'm not aware of, I suggest you stick with that.

1. Is it ok to keep taking the ashwagandha while doing the KF and LF? Absolutely!

2. While doing the two simulataneously, does it matter which order I do them in? I.e., can I take the kf tea and then the lf drink followed by the lf tea, or should I do vice versa?  see above...and let me know if you feel you really NEED to do them together.  If you do, I think it's VERY important that you make SURE you do coffee enemas daily.  Both at once is a LOT of toxin release...and it seems to me your struggling with just the kidney cleanse alone.  So if you're going to do BOTH simultaneously, it's imperative (to me) to make SURE you're getting that blood cleanses and liver opened up daily via coffee enema.

3. What is the big flush, and how do I do that?  Here's Dr. Schulzes version (see notes about using grapefruit or lemon juice, as that's been proven to be more effective that oj).  Also, stretching out the ingestion of that much oil/citrus (1 cup of each) rather than ingesting 1/2 cup of each quickly...???...we don't know why Dr. Schulze did that, but we KNOW that after each "ingestion" of the oil/citrus mix, the bile release is over 30 minutes later.  So stretching it out over 4 hours means you're doing lots of "little flushes".  When you "get there', let me know via post and we'll talk about your options (I'm running out of time...and I'm overdue for my OWN coffee enema).

 

'Sorry you had to wait so long for all the information - 'hope it answered your questions/concerns sufficiently -

 

Oodles of healthy blessings -

 

Uny

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