Yeah well I am going to order 2 extra strength HW and stack it with as much elecampane as I can eat, found it cheap on ebay...seems Wormwood /clove/black walnut is useless against ascaris...dosent do anything to mine anyway...but the HW sorta paralyzed them but as soon as I went of I could them again...jesus christ when will a fu***ng doctor help me. :(