Doc, another comment, PLEASE!
My question here might be related at least in part to the more highly bug infested with the longer term problems.
I have read where people with gall bladders that are jam packed with stones might have to do a few LF's before they started getting out many stones or symptom relief. I am wondering if the same applies to the liver and those who don't have a gall baldder.
I have been getting more and more stones out with each LF. AS my above post says, this 10th LF I got out over 300 of the green ones, some that were quite large and around the 1 cm size. The extra half dose of the oil mixture the next morning might have had someting to do with this. Clark says by doing this you can get out more stones. With every liver flush I am feeling a higher amount of the stones moving in my liver. Doc, you said this is a GOOD thing and means that the liver is moving the stones down to the bottom of it where they can be flshed out. This also causes a lot of back muscle spasm and makes it hard to breathe. I just wanted to emphasize that this can get a little painful and it might take some patience to get through it.
Also, I am wondering if being out of the Barefoot's L/GB formula and not taking that is having an influence on the amount of pain I am experiencing. I have learned a good lesson in that with the Barefoot stuff you better get a good supply ahead and order a while before you run out. What I have found that I can do for some of the pain is fill a 00 capsule with wintergreen oil and do that at bedtime. It has natural salicylate in it. I don't know what effect it has on the bugs or stones.
For what my body is telling me, I am adding some of Schulze's kidney tea to his detox tea--just putting it all together and steeping it. Probably average 2 cups a day for that.
I haven't seen any calcified stones, but also take some GCG and Chanca Piedra mixture from Julia Chang's program, just in case. I don't do this on a regular basis, only a day or two a week. It also helps out the kidneys a little, too. I don't want to detox too fast, but know I have to balance that and also discourage any kidney problems. The only slight indication of that would be some puffiness under the eyes. One could get that from not sleeping the night before from liver pain, too, so that theory might be up in the air right now as to IF I should be taking so much of the kidney detox stuff. This would be something that a diabetic might have to think about since I have been doing the LF's a little close together and dumping a lot through the kidneys. For the books, I am not one who has experienced any recognizeable kidney problems in the past, even tho I am diabetic.
i was wondering, Doc, if you would relate a little more of your experience as to how your liver emptied from the beginning and if you did have a time when the pain got progressively worse until you dumpted most of the debris out of it. This kind of pain with the stones and junk moving, you are right in saying it is different than the diffuse pain/ache one experiences in the beginning before they begin the dewormers and LF's, and what also one feels like when they know it is time to do another flush. I was wondering if this might be like a "crisis" sort of thing where I was stirring up the bulk of the stones and during the next few flushes, would get rid of a whole lot more and then see this number dwindling a little. (I am patient, I think, just hurting a lot right now) That time and the amount of liver flushes one might have to do, I suppose, would be relevant to the how packed the liver was in the first place and the amount of bugs one had to concentrate on getting rid of. But another thing I am wondering is just how many bugs and stones a person's liver can hold, anyway??? That's a DARN good question!!! The two flushes I did back to back before this last one showed 13 of the 1 cm stones that were a light
tan color and were really full of the small worms.
I know that there is no time element on this thing about killing the bugs and liver flushing, but I was just looking for your thoughts on what some of the symptoms might tell a person.
Thanks again.