EDIT! Tree Iodine - Vulcanel says "ain't no iodine in trees"...BUT

EDIT!: Apparently I've made an error in interpreting & understanding a few of the sources I listed below - as the 'iodine value' of oil does not necessarily mean there's Iodine IN the oil. I am looking for answers, trying to learn (and to increase my knowledge), and I apologize for my mistakes in understanding. However, it seems clear to me that my second source does show there is Iodine in walnut...as well as hundreds of other sites that are not 'scientific' studies. I will do my best to correct my mistakes and provide other sources as soon as I can find them. Please accept my sincerest of apologies for my mistake and misinformation. I will do my best to 'make it right'. --Unyquity


...scientific studies say there IS!

>>>And there ain't no Iodine in trees. I find the notion of "Tree Iodine" to be fictitious...But, there is no such thing as Tree Iodine.<<<<

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>>>>You can suggest all you want about trees and berries having iodine in them, but until it's proven by titration, it's all conjecture.

Besides, iodine has been known for about 200 years. During this time, all of its sources have likely been discovered. We know where the iodine is.

As much as some may like to profit from discovering new sources of natural iodine, that's not going to happen.<<<<

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>>>>If one finds a tree that contains more iodine than the soil and surroundings could supply, they ought to write it up and report it to the appropriate authorities for publication, as it would be a significant discovery and they would make a little place in history for themselves, and do mankind a great service by identifying a true alternate source of iodine. If it were true.<<<<

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>>>>I have yet to see a single article describing any quantitative iodine content of walnut, authored by anyone with any credibility....I look forward to anyone putting up a paper on the iodine content of walnut. I've searched the topic exhaustively.<<<<<

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Well Vulcanel, I did ONE search on Google (two word: iodine, walnut) and was able to find ALL of these references (below). I don't know what your scientific mind considers an EXHAUSTIVE search, but it obviously wasn't very exhaustive OR very scientific.

This post contains more than just a bit of solid evidence that Walnuts & Walnut Hulls DO contain Iodine. It HAS been proven; it HAS been analyzed; it HAS been used for decades throughout the world of holistic healing, and it IS TRUE.

Here's what I was able to find in just the first two pages of a quick Google search:



http://www.springerlink.com/content/p1l47v640kr7t156/


The composition of California walnut oil
Contribution from oil, fat and wax laboratory, bureau of chemistry and soils, department of agriculture
Journal Journal of the American Oil Chemists' Society
Publisher Springer Berlin / Heidelberg
ISSN 0003-021X (Print) 1558-9331 (Online)
Issue Volume 6, Number 2 / February, 1929
Category Feature Articles
DOI 10.1007/BF02585712
Pages 21-23
Subject Collection Chemistry and Materials Science
SpringerLink Date Wednesday, May 09, 2007

George S. Jamieson and Robert S. McKinney

Summary The chemical and physical characteristics of a sample of oil expressed from California walnuts have been determined. With the exception of the iodine number, the characteristics are similar to those reported for European walnut oil. The unusually high iodine number (161.7) of this sample of oil is noteworthy; the usual limits by the Wijs method are given as 138 to 148. This oil was found to contain 89.7 per cent of unsaturated and 5.3 of saturated acids. Contrary to the repeated statements in the literature, walnut oil does not contain lauric acid and only a trace of myristic acid, which is in accordance with the saponification value (192 to 197) of the oil. The percentages of the fatty acids as glycerides are given below:
The composition of this oil has been determined, with the following results: Glycerides of: Percent Oleic acid 17.6 Linolic acic 72.8 Linoleic acid 3.2 Myristic acid trace Palmitic acid 4.6 Stearic acid .9 Arachidic acid trace Unsaponifiable matter .5

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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FKA/is_3_61/ai_54017848

Some researchers believe that what is "curtains" for fungal infections and parasites can also be destructive against more serious conditions, like cancer. One study in the 1960s reported that when two of the walnut hull's chemicals were injected into laboratory animals' tumors, there was a dramatic decrease in both the size and the weight of the tumors. A German patent on this cancer treatment was taken out in 1990. Another study from that same time frame stated that large doses of the walnut hull's chemicals could also help lower blood pressure and cholesterol levels. ***The iodine in the walnut is also said to help with thyroid deficiencies, while the high manganese levels can help feed the brain and enhance the functions of the brain and nerves.***

riffith, H. Winter, M.D. Vitamins, Herbs, Minerals and Supplements: The Complete Guide. Tucson, Ariz.: Fisher Books, 1998.

Keville, Kathi. Herbs for Health and Healing. Emmaus, Pa.: Rodale Press, 1996.
http://www.dmi.net/basics./ds-blackwalnut.htm

http://www.healthyideas.com/healing/
herb/971107.herb.html

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http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jafcau/2005/53/i12/abs/jf0478354.html

(The American Chemical Society - surely V will find this "valid")

Oils were extracted from the nuts using small-scale industry pressing equipment and analyzed using standard methods for fatty acids, fatty acids in the triacylglycerol 2-position, tocopherols and tocotrienols, triacylglycerols, sterols, steradienes, and iodine value. Values for the composition of the sterols, triacylglycerols, fatty acids, iodine value, and tocopherol composition were generally in good agreement with the results of previous similar surveys.

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http://www.actahort.org/books/442/442_29.htm

ISHS Acta Horticulturae 442: III International Walnut Congress
BIOCHEMICAL COMPOSITION OF FRUITS OF SOME IMPORTANT WALNUT CULTIVARS AND SELECTIONS

Abstract:
The paper presents the results obtained in the study on biochemical composition of kernel (starch, sugars, proteins, oil, iodine number and refraction index) in the following eight cultivars and selections: Dorka, Ceinovo, Ibar, Vujan, Ovcar, G-139, G-251 and G-286. The average starch content in the cultivars studied amounted to 2.46%, Sugar content averaged 2.93%. It was found that the average value for proteins was 14.02%. Oils, which had the greatest content in kernel, averaged 68.81%. Iodine number, as an indicator of oil quality was 140.81 on average, whereas the average value for refraction index was 74.72 for all the cultivars studied.

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And for those of us that enjoy learning from & considering "other" sources (maybe not quite as 'scientific')...they're still certainly a way to gather puzzle pieces together to complete a 'picture'...I found these on the same search:


http://www.theherbsplace.com/Thyroid_Activator_p_266.html

Black walnut hulls are one of the best sourcesof iodine found in land- based flora. In fact, you may even tastethe iodine if you care to bite into the soft, green outer huskof the walnut. This portion of the plant also contains potassium,which helps regulate excess salt in the body. As for the iodine,it will not support parasites.

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http://www.theherbsplace.com/Black_Walnut_100_capsules_p_376.html

Black Walnut is a rich source of the trace mineral chromium and is also high in iodine....There are benefits from the rich supply of organic iodine and tannins which contain antiseptic properties.

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http://www.drstandley.com/herbs_black_walnut.shtml

POTENTIAL BENEFITS: Black-Walnut helps to balance Sugar levels. When Black-Walnut is used as an extract it is great for poison oak, ringworm and skin problems of all kinds, especially acne. The brown stain that is seen in the green husk of a Black-Walnut contains an organic iodine that has antiseptic properties for healing. Black Walnut has also been known to restore good tooth enamel. Black Walnut has large amounts of Vitamin B15. It also contains the minerals magnesium, manganese, silica, calcium, phosphorus, potassium and iron. Black Walnut also contains protein.

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Vitamin/supplement companies are HIGHLY scrutinized by the Powers That Be...they must be extremely careful in labeling or the FDA will yank their products. While that doesn't make them any more knowledgeable/honest/reliable that individuals claiming to have done exhaustive scientific searches, it IS more information to be considered.


And lastly, here's a VERY intriguing site that shows all KINDS of various "iodine values" for various plants/tree/fruit oils. I know NOTHING about "iodine values" in oils, but it sure looks to me like there are a LOT of natural plants containing iodine.
http://home.earthlink.net/~skinesscentuals/LyeTable.htm


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Here's the ONE Google Search I did which yielded the above references - again, two simple words in the search line: iodine, walnut.
http://tinyurl.com/2zoumh


If one were TRULY interested in learning the truth about natural sources of iodine, one would think that it would be worth doing a quick lil' search to find published sources & hardfast evidence to back up one's statements, such as: "And there ain't no iodine in trees"/"..."You can suggest all you want about trees and berries having iodine in them.


Folks, for those of us that ARE interested in getting our minerals, essential elements, vitamins & enzymes from natural food sources, this information IS invaluable. Living in Iowa, it never made sense to me how t midwestern 'natives' throughout history (that obviously had/have no access to natural occuring iodine or iodine-bearing seaweeds) could have attained health without a natural source for iodine...and now I understand - both the fruit/nut of the tree and the outer husks are iodine rich! Dr. Abraham's studies of how the Japanese remain free of iodine-deficient diseases was based on their ingestion of a FOOD based iodine source - NOT Lugols (or any other version of "iodine in a bottle"). While I realize that those who have progressed to a 'disease state' (FBD, breast cancer, etc), *MAY* now need more iodine than what they can ingest from plant-based sources - I also know from Abraham's studies that all it takes is a food/plant based source of iodine to prevent these diseases and provide the body with all the iodine it truly needs. (The reason I say *may* is because that many of the great holistic healers of this century have cured all of the 'iodine-deficient diseases' withOUT using Lugols/Iodoral...see Kelley, Christopher, Schulze, Naessens, Rife, etc.)


Finding a "new" plant-based source for iodine is WONDERFUL. It's a shame that V exhibits such close-mindedness on the topic...and it's even more of a shame he was unwilling to take a few short minutes of time to research before he told others there's 'no iodine in trees' and that he'd researched the topic exhaustively . 'Tis my belief (which coincides with the research of Dr. Abraham), that if we all utilized the plant-based forms of iodine available to us, we'd NEVER end up with the vast array of diseases caused by iodine deficiency!

Unyquity

"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual" (Galileo Galilei 1632)