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Senator Byrd Questions Bush Motives - The Speech
Published on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 by CommonDreams.org
'A Troubling Speech'
Remarks by U.S. Senator Robert C. Byrd
US Senate Chamber
May 6, 2003
In my 50 years as a member of Congress, I have had the privilege to witness the defining rhetorical
moments of a number of American presidents. I have listened spellbound to the soaring oratory of
John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. I have listened grimly to the painful soul-searching of Lyndon
Johnson and Richard Nixon.
Presidential speeches are an important marker of any President's legacy. These are the tangible
moments that history seizes upon and records for posterity. For this reason, I was deeply troubled by
both the content and the context of President Bush's remarks to the American people last week
marking the end of the combat phase of the war in Iraq. As I watched the President's fighter jet swoop
down onto the deck of the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, I could not help but contrast the reported
simple dignity of President Lincoln at Gettysburg with the flamboyant showmanship of President Bush
aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln.
President Bush's address to the American people announcing combat victory in Iraq deserved to be
marked with solemnity, not extravagance; with gratitude to God, not self-congratulatory gestures.
American blood has been shed on foreign soil in defense of the President's policies. This is not some
made-for-TV backdrop for a campaign commercial. This is real life, and real lives have been lost. To me,
it is an affront to the Americans killed or injured in Iraq for the President to exploit the trappings of war
for the momentary spectacle of a speech. I do not begrudge his salute to America's warriors aboard the
carrier Lincoln, for they have performed bravely and skillfully, as have their countrymen still in Iraq,
but I do question the motives of a deskbound President who assumes the garb of a warrior for the
purposes of a speech.
As I watched the President's speech, before the great banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished," I
could not help but be reminded of the tobacco barns of my youth, which served as country road
advertising backdrops for the slogans of chewing tobacco purveyors. I am loath to think of an aircraft
carrier being used as an advertising backdrop for a presidential political slogan, and yet that is what I
saw.
What I heard the President say also disturbed me. It may make for grand theater to describe Saddam
Hussein as an ally of al Qaeda or to characterize the fall of Baghdad as a victory in the war on terror,
but stirring rhetoric does not necessarily reflect sobering reality. Not one of the 19 September 11th
hijackers was an Iraqi. In fact, there is not a shred of evidence to link the September 11 attack on the
United States to Iraq. There is no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein was an evil despot who
brought great suffering to the Iraqi people, and there is no doubt in my mind that he encouraged and
rewarded acts of Terrorism against Israel. But his crimes are not those of Osama bin Laden, and
bringing Saddam Hussein to justice will not bring justice to the victims of 9-11. The United States has
made great progress in its efforts to disrupt and destroy the al Qaeda terror network. We can take
solace and satisfaction in that fact. We should not risk tarnishing those very real accomplishments by
trumpeting victory in Iraq as a victory over Osama bin Laden.
We are reminded in the gospel of Saint Luke, "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be
much required." Surely the same can be said of any American president. We expect, nay demand, that
our leaders be scrupulous in the truth and faithful to the facts. We do not seek theatrics or hyperbole.
We do not require the stage management of our victories. The men and women of the United States
military are to be saluted for their valor and sacrifice in Iraq. Their heroics and quiet resolve speak for
themselves. The prowess and professionalism of America's military forces do not need to be
embellished by the gaudy excesses of a political campaign.
War is not theater, and victory is not a campaign slogan. I join with the President and all Americans in
expressing heartfelt thanks and gratitude to our men and women in uniform for their service to our
country, and for the sacrifices that they have made on our behalf. But on this point I differ with the
President: I believe that our military forces deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, and not
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This is a reply to # 571,816i'd like to send out a collective slap...
... to AMERICA! WAKE UP, for cryin' out loud!
as wonderful as sen byrd's words ring in their true form, i am apt to believe they will do little to change people's minds about what is right and wrong. i'm certain that somehow one of bush's henchmen will find a way to bastardize these sincere words, and turn them on their head, resulting in byrd's seeming an "unpatriotic liberal", although he clearly stated that he supports the troops, and, if anything, sees bush's display of up-one-manship as inappropriate and disrespectful, as well as his speech being outright misleading. sadly, 61% of this population believe that 9/11, osama, and saddam are somehow correlated. what the soul can't purchase the mind sells. clearly bush has sold his soul a long time ago. how else could this power and popularity have been bestowed upon this complete and utter LOSER? as my dad would say, in his thick eastern european accent - "onnly in amuricah".
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NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- A shocking French ad campaign that portrays famous French journalists as murder victims to drive home the dangers journalists face and the importance of defending press freedom may be adapted to run in the U.S. and around the world.
"As soon as I saw it, I thought 'We've got to make it travel,' " said Bob Isherwood, worldwide creative director at Publicis Groupe's Saatchi & Saatchi.
Saatchi's Paris office created three graphic print and poster ads, one featuring leading TV journalist Christine Ockrent with a bullet hole in her forehead. The other two ads show male TV journalists -- Emmanuel Chain, who is in charge of a Sunday evening news magazine program, and Guillaume Durand, who hosts Campus, a popular literary talk show -- one apparently with a slashed throat and the other shot to death in a parking lot.
'Reporters without Borders'
The ads, for French journalists' group "Reporters without Borders," say: "Start fighting for press freedom before you lose it."
Mr. Isherwood said the ads, which started running in January, had a huge impact in France. He said he is putting the campaign on the agenda to be discussed at Saatchi's worldwide creative board meeting, to be held in Sao Paulo, Brazil, om April 28-30.
May use U.S. journalists
"I'm going to see if we can't run it globally," he said. "It's a very powerful idea. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to run it in the U.S., with U.S. journalists, and I'm sure people would do it."
He said the campaign could be re-shot in the U.S. and other countries, using local journalists.
"I'm sure people would do it," he said.
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THAT is powerful
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THAT is powerful
but you're right - bush will never allow it to see the light of day in this country. i'm going to france in a few weeks - i'll let you know if i see it there.
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I Call This Tyranny
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I Call This Tyranny
Eugene Police Illegally Raid Homes with Tank; Prompts Federal Lawsuit
author: Lauren Regan
In the pre-dawn of October 17, 2002, approximately 50 police officers from multiple police agencies swarmed a residential neighborhood in Eugene, Oregon, USA, armed with automatic assault rifles and accompanied by a National Guard military Light Armored Vehicle, which looks like a tank. Now a lawsuit has been filed against all the police agencies involved in this gestapo action.
For Immediate Release: April 30, 2003
Contact Lauren Regan, AAL (541) 687-9180
PRESS RELEASE
Eugene Police Illegally Raid Homes with Tank; Prompts Federal Lawsuit
The victims of an egregiously false police raid, and their attorneys, announce an impending lawsuit against the Oregon State Police, Lane County Sheriff, Eugene and Springfield Police Departments, Portland Police Bureau, Oregon National Guard and others. In the pre-dawn of October 17, 2002, approximately 50 police officers from these agencies swarmed a residential neighborhood in Eugene, Oregon, USA, armed with automatic assault rifles and accompanied by a National Guard military Light Armored Vehicle, which looks like a tank. Police claimed to be searching for a marijuana growing operation within three homes.
Two couples, Marcella Monroe/Tam Davage, and Elizabeth Redetzke/Jor Havens were awakened by “flash-bang” grenades being hurled into the back yards of their homes located in a densely populated residential neighborhood, which caused immense explosions that shook the windows of surrounding homes. Without knocking, masked and armored SWAT police smashed in the doors of three residences. Police forced the residents from their beds without clothing and placed a black hood over the head of one of the women, while police ransacked their homes for hours.
The police found no evidence of a marijuana growing operation, but, in a blatant attempt to justify this outrageous invasion, arrested and cited the individuals anyway, thereby exposing them to felony criminal charges and the possibility of having their homes forfeited under Oregon drug laws. (See 12/5/02 article in the Register Guard newspaper.) Eventually all charges were dismissed by the State. The raids caused physical and emotional injuries to the individuals, as well asextensive damage to their property.
“The police clearly violated the 4th Amendment, which protects citizens from unreasonable search and false arrest. We intend to hold these police officers accountable, lest we allow them to further erode fundamental Constitutional rights, and put this community in jeopardy of serious physical injury at the hands of law enforcement,” said Attorney Ben Rosenfeld.
Meanwhile, outraged and frightened citizens are asking why military “tanks” and tactics are now being deployed against U.S citizens in residential neighborhoods for purposes of search and seizure. One neighbor, a public school teacher, was walking to her car to go to work that morning, “we opened the front door to find a swath of police officers, a huge armored personnel carrier (i.e. tank), and several men in camouflage lurking around the shrubbery with assault rifles.” said her husband. “I just want to make sure I’m not going to be shot leaving the house,” the teacher said, gesturing toward the men with machine guns between her and her car. “I haven’t shot anyone in two weeks,” responded the officer.
“Either the police just really screwed up, or they should have done far more investigation before entering a residential neighborhood in this manner,” attorney Lauren Regan said. “Before you drive a tank up to someone’s house with 50 SWAT officers brandishing automatic assault weapons, you should be darn certain that you’ve got very dangerous pot growers in that house, and should be equally certain there is not a safer way to conduct such a raid. This, and other recent SWAT incidents, illustrate a total disregard for community safety where police are endangering the lives and safety of the neighborhood residents.” Attorney Lauren Regan said.
The police attempted to defend what neighbors termed their “militaristic” raid in the 12/5/02 Register Guard article; claiming their approach with this raid was not much different, except in magnitude, than other drug raids they regularly conduct. Lieutenant Lee Thoming of the Interagency Narcotics Task Force contended, “Society at large wants us to do this, and the community at large wants us to do this.”
Contrary to Thoming’s assertion, the Whiteaker neighborhood association officially condemned the October raid at 5th and Adams. The Whiteaker Community Council president stated, "We all need to learn more about the encroachment of paramilitarized policing in the United States, we need to watch law enforcement, we need to watch out for each others' civil rights, and we need to work for a genuinely independent police review board. What is at stake is not only the livability of our city, but also -- potentially -- the very life of any one of us or our children."
Critics contend that military tactics, ideology and methodology are replacing traditional American civilian law enforcement. According to reports published by the National Lawyer’s Guild and others, the number of people who have died at the hands of police increased 230 percent between 1990 and 1999. This frightening escalation of militarized police violence has led the cities of Albuquerque, New Mexico, and Dinuba, California, to completely dismantle their SWAT teams, and Seattle, Washington, and Dallas, Texas, have curtailed the activity of their SWAT units, taking them off drug raids and suicide calls.
“This type of raid is contrary to the way our community wants the police to conduct themselves. The deployment of SWAT units should be limited to extraordinary circumstances such as a hostage situation, a sniper, or a bomb threat. We hope that Eugene will follow in the paths of several other cities and reign in the abuses perpetuated by rogue police agencies.” Regan stated.
“There is a deep sense of betrayal and loss of trust. We believed that our police were supposed to protect our safety and our Constitutional rights. Instead they attacked us with machine guns without cause. They have destroyed my sense of security.” Tam Davage said.
His wife Marcella Monroe added, “How can we ever feel safe again? What is happening to our country?”
Attorneys Lauren Regan of Eugene, Oregon, and Dennis Cunningham and Ben Rosenfeld of San Francisco, California, will be prosecuting these claims on behalf of the homeowners.
phone: (541) 687-9180
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The ”war...
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This is a reply to # 571,805What, in God’s name, should we expect? The ”war on drugs” has opened much of the U.S. military arsenal to local PDs for pennies on the dollar. PDs recruit from the multitude of ex-military po...
What, in God's name, should we expect?
The "war on drugs" has opened much of the U.S. military arsenal
to local PDs for pennies on the dollar.
PDs recruit from the multitude of ex-military policemen and the
infantry (ground pounders.) Now, whom do you think scores "lowest"
on the military entrance exams... Missile techs and radar repairmen?
Now, add to this mass of intellect, the confiscatory laws related to
illegal drug distribution.
Talk about a prize winning recipe for anarchy!-
dude, i freakin' LIVE in oregon!
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dude, i freakin' LIVE in oregon!
but i guess as long as i don't grow pot, i'll be okay. ooops, that's right - NEITHER HAD THEY! this is worse than the SS.-
What a beautiful state - rode the ”Coast Starlight...
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What a beautiful state - rode the ”Coast Starlight” through it many times. Eugene is a great city... perhaps a bit damp at times! :-)
What a beautiful state - rode the "Coast Starlight" through it many
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This is a reply to # 571,810One of my goals was to ride my bike from Northern California to Vancouver and enjoy the coastal beauty of your picturesue state along the way. I was training for that and triathalons and I was in t...
One of my goals was to ride my bike from Northern California to Vancouver and enjoy the coastal beauty of your picturesue state along the way.
I was training for that and triathalons and I was in the best shape of my life physically, emotionally and mentally until a strange stream of several chemical injuries occured... then *POOF* severe MSC with autoimmune dysfunction which billowed into a host of other maladies. Life is full of suprises. Now I'm on a healing quest and finding much truth along the way. Different journey than I had in mind.
Oh I'll do my "other" ride at some point. Just got some serious healing to do first.-
May my prayers aid you in your journey... bon chan...
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May my prayers aid you in your journey... bon chance.
May my prayers aid you in your journey... bon chance.-
i’m far from a native - i recently moved out here ...
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i'm far from a native - i recently moved out here because i loved the beautiful scenery, and because, during past visits, i had received the impression that people were more open-minded than back east. you know, what with the allowance of medical marijuana and euthanasia. i still believe it's one of the more "liberal" states, and it certainly IS pretty. i don't live in eugene. lapis, i'm so sorry to hear about your medical predicaments. was this work-related? if so, i hope you, in the very least, made them hurt. i don't have much faith in the legal system, but sometimes it does work to the advantage of the "little guys". best wishes in your rehabilitation.
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dude, i freakin' LIVE in oregon!
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What, in God’s name, should we expect?
The ”war...
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...from the Impeach Bush list....
Oppose Tyranny ’03
”If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”
* George W. Bush, 12/18/2000, CNN http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
Many on the side of democracy, morality and the law of nations are facing dark times these days. Morale is waning. Bush has achieved what the media endlessly tells us is a ”victory.”
Perhaps. By ”liberating” Iraq’s vast oil reserves, and billions (trillions?) of U.S. taxpayer dollars, ShrubCo is in position for some good old fashioned exploitation at the moment.
* U.S. ...
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Pearle told investors they could profit from war
May 7, 2003, 06:01
Pentagon adviser Richard Perle briefed an investment seminar on ways to profit from conflicts in Iraq and North Korea just weeks after he received a top-secret government briefing on the crises in the two countries.
Perle, who until March was chairman of the Defense Policy Board, a group of outside advisers to the Pentagon, also serves on the board of several defense contractors. His actions raise concerns about conflicts of interest.
Perle attended a Defense Intelligence Agency briefing in February and three weeks later participated in a Goldman Sachs conference call in which he advised investors in a talk titled Implications of an Imminent War: Iraq Now. North Korea Next?
A financial advisor who participated in the conference call told Capitol Hill Blue that Perle offered "advice on how to cash if war broke out in Iraq and/or North Korea."
Perle did not return phone calls or e-mails seeking comment.
One of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's closest advisers, Perle was a vocal advocate of going to war against Iraq and publicly questioned the reliability of some longtime U.S. allies, including France and Saudi Arabia.
He resigned as chairman of the Defense Policy Board on March 27 after it was reported he had worked as a consultant to bankrupt telecommunications company Global Crossing Ltd., which was trying to get Pentagon approval to be sold to Asian investors.
In offering his resignation, Perle, 61, denied any wrongdoing and said he didn't want questions about his outside interests to be a distraction to Rumsfeld. He remained a member of the board.
"The guiding principle here is that you do not give advice in the Defense Policy Board on any particular matter in which you have an interest," he said at the time. "And I don't do that. I haven't done that."
Rep. John Conyers Jr., D-Mich., the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, has asked the Pentagon's inspector general to investigate Perle's business activities and any conflicts they might pose for his membership.
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That creepy, crawling psychopath could haunt a house. And he gets all of the face time on Fox that he wants! You decide!
That creepy, crawling psychopath could haunt a house. And he gets
all of the face time on Fox that he wants! You decide!
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i’m down with it. i voted. we’ll see what good it does. lately, i have been having a dream where cheney, bush, rove, ashcroft, rumsfeld, et. al. walk into a court room with their hands cuffed (and n...
i'm down with it. i voted. we'll see what good it does. lately, i have been having a dream where cheney, bush, rove, ashcroft, rumsfeld, et. al. walk into a court room with their hands cuffed (and not by Armani...), in orange jump suits (and not because they work for a flight rescue team...), facing the judge, who, instead of a gavel brandishes a small world globe in his hand, calling the World Court to an order. one can dream...-
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NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- A shocking French ad campaign that portrays famous French journalists as murder victims to drive home the dangers journalists face and the importance of defending press fre...
NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- A shocking French ad campaign that portrays famous French journalists as murder victims to drive home the dangers journalists face and the importance of defending press freedom may be adapted to run in the U.S. and around the world.
"As soon as I saw it, I thought 'We've got to make it travel,' " said Bob Isherwood, worldwide creative director at Publicis Groupe's Saatchi & Saatchi.
Saatchi's Paris office created three graphic print and poster ads, one featuring leading TV journalist Christine Ockrent with a bullet hole in her forehead. The other two ads show male TV journalists -- Emmanuel Chain, who is in charge of a Sunday evening news magazine program, and Guillaume Durand, who hosts Campus, a popular literary talk show -- one apparently with a slashed throat and the other shot to death in a parking lot.
'Reporters without Borders'
The ads, for French journalists' group "Reporters without Borders," say: "Start fighting for press freedom before you lose it."
Mr. Isherwood said the ads, which started running in January, had a huge impact in France. He said he is putting the campaign on the agenda to be discussed at Saatchi's worldwide creative board meeting, to be held in Sao Paulo, Brazil, om April 28-30.
May use U.S. journalists
"I'm going to see if we can't run it globally," he said. "It's a very powerful idea. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to run it in the U.S., with U.S. journalists, and I'm sure people would do it."
He said the campaign could be re-shot in the U.S. and other countries, using local journalists.
"I'm sure people would do it," he said.
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Democrats Question Cost of Bush's Sea Landing
Reuters
Wednesday, May 7, 2003; 6:47 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats
in Congress on Wednesday demanded
to know the costs of President Bush's jet landing on an aircraft carrier last week that
they branded a costly political stunt.
The Bush administration disclosed on Tuesday that Bush insisted on landing on the
USS Lincoln in a S-3B Viking jet even though the carrier was within helicopter range
because he wanted to share the pilots' experience. The ship was returning from the Gulf
region after the U.S.-led war in Iraq.
Democrats on the House of Representatives Appropriations Committee said costs
could top $1 million. They included delaying the USS Lincoln that was steaming from
the Gulf to San Diego, California, an extra day of air patrols, keeping the crew at sea,
presidential security and flying Bush to the ship.
The Democrats issued a news release headed 'shameless' in large red type that cited the
'nerve required to delay the return of 4,000 sailors to their families after 10 months at sea
in order to stage (a) photo-op.'
Bush, wearing a flight suit, made a jet landing and posed with crew members to mark the
end of major combat in Iraq. The landing was widely televised and received extensive
media coverage throughout the day.
Rep. Henry Waxman of California, the House Government Reform Committee's top
Democrat, called for the General Accounting Office to examine the costs.
A Navy official, speaking on condition of anonymity, disputed that Bush's visit added
significant costs, and said it did not delay the carrier's return to its home port in
Washington state.
'The operating cost of an aircraft carrier is about a million dollars a day. But it got to
where it was supposed to be on time,' he said.
The White House said the Lincoln had made faster progress than expected and was 30
miles offshore for the presidential visit.
White House spokesman Ari Fleischer rejected charges that the jet landing was political
theater.
'I think that the 5,000 sailors on that ship recognized this for what it was, the president
going out there to say thank you to those who risked their lives,' Fleischer said.
On Tuesday, he said Bush wanted to land by jet to 'allow him to see an aircraft landing
the same way that the pilots saw an aircraft landing.
Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia, the Senate's senior Democrat, said: 'I am loath to
think of an aircraft carrier being used as an advertising backdrop for a presidential
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who is he kidding?
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who is he kidding?
thanking the sailors? how about not cutting their vet benefits when they retire? personally, i would be insulted. but then again, i just don't get this guy. apparently, the sailors did, because i'm sure the majority of them will vote for him again, even if it means losing their lives next time bush feels like playing the war games he so eloquently avoided in the 60's. how embarrassing! will someone PLEASE put an end to this brain washing? i can hardly take it anymore!
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Karl Rove led the nation to war to improve the political prospects of George W. Bush. I know how surreal that
sounds. But I also know it is true.
As the president's chief political advisor, Rove is involved in every decision coming out of the Oval Office. In fact,
he flat out makes some of them. He is co-president of the United States, just as he was co-candidate for that office
and co-governor of Texas. His relationship with the president is the most profound and complex of all of the White
House advisors. And his role creates questions not addressed by our Constitution.
Rove is probably the most powerful unelected person in American history.
The cause of the war in Iraq was not just about Saddam Hussein or weapons of mass destruction or Al Qaeda links to
Iraq. Those may have been the stated causes, but every good lie should have a germ of truth. No, this was mostly a
product of Rove's usual prescience. He looked around and saw that the economy was anemic and people were
complaining about the president's inability to find Osama bin Laden. In another corner, the neoconservatives in the
Cabinet were itching to launch ships and planes to the Mideast and take control of Iraq. Rove converged the dynamics
of the times. He convinced the president to connect Hussein to Bin Laden, even if the CIA could not.
This misdirection worked. A Pew survey taken during the war showed 61% of Americans believe that Hussein and Bin
Laden were confederates in the 9/11 attacks.
And now, Rove needs the conflict to continue so his client — the president — can retain wartime stature during next
year's election. Listen to the semantics from Bush's recent trip to the aircraft carrier Lincoln. When he referred to
the "battle of Iraq," Bush implied that we only won a single fight in a bigger war that was not yet over. I first
encountered Rove more than 20 years ago in Texas. I reported on him and the future president as a TV
correspondent there, traveling with them extensively during their race to the governor's mansion in Austin. Once
there, Rove was involved in every important decision the governor made and, according to Bush staffers, vetted each
critical choice for political implications.
Nothing is different today in the White House. The same old reliable sources from his days in Texas are in
Washington with him. And they say Rove is intimately involved in the Cabinet and that he sat in on all the big
meetings leading up to the Iraq war and signed off on all major decisions.
Rove fancies himself an expert in both policy and politics because he sees no distinction between the two. This
matters for a number of reasons. There is always a time during any president's administration when what is best for
the future of the country diverges from what best serves that president's political future. If Rove is standing with
George W. Bush at that moment, he will push the president in the direction of reelection rather than the country's
best interests.
The United States is best served when political calculations are not a part of the White House's most important
decisions. Rove's calculus is always a formula for winning the next election. He was less concerned about the bombing
of Iraqi civilians or the bullets flying at our own troops, according to people who have worked for him for years, than
he was about what these acts would do to the results of the electoral college, or how they influence voters in swing
states like Florida.
There needs to be something sacred about our presidents' decisions to send our children into combat. The Karl Roves
of the world ought to not even be in the room, much less asked for advice.
Rove has influenced dealings with Iraq and North Korea, according to Bush administration sources. For instance, when
the U.S. was notified, through formal diplomatic channels, that North Korea had nuclear technology, Congress was in
the midst of discussing the Iraqi war resolution. Rove counseled the president to keep that information from Congress
for 12 days, until the debate was finished, so it would not affect the vote. He was also reported to be present at a war
strategy meeting concerning whether to attack Syria after Iraq. Rove said the timing was not right. Yet. Having the
political advisor involved in that decision is wrong.
War, after all, is not a campaign event-
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This is a reply to # 571,798A Test Question -
If you were locked in a room with Sadam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and Karl Rove
and you had a gun with just two (2) bullets, whom would you shoot?
Answer: Karl Rove... Twice.
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Here comes that old "National Security" ploy again. Can anyone say incriminating evidence.
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White House refuses to release Sept. 11 info
By FRANK DAVIES
Knight Ridder Newspapers
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration and the nation's intelligence agencies are blocking the release of sensitive information about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, delaying publication of a 900-page congressional report on how the terrorist assault happened.
Intelligence officials insist the information must be kept secret for national security reasons. But some of the information is already broadly available on the Internet or has been revealed in interim reports on the investigation, leading to charges that the administration is simply trying to avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report.
Disputed information includes a well publicized warning from an FBI agent that al-Qaida supporters might be training in U.S. flight schools and the names of the president and his national security adviser as people who may have received warnings that a terrorist attack was possible before Sept. 11, one official said.
"We're trying to keep in this report some matters that have been talked about in public, discussed in newspapers, and not to do that, flies in the face of common sense," Rep. Porter Goss, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said Monday.
"The White House is continuing a trend of presenting obstacles to us rather than cooperating with us," said Tim Roemer, a former House member who participated in the congressional inquiry and is now a member of the independent commission investigating Sept. 11.
Goss, a Florida Republican, and Sen. Bob Graham, a Florida Democrat who headed the Senate Intelligence Committee last year, co-chaired a joint investigation over 10 months that detailed security lapses, bad communication and missed clues by the CIA and FBI that preceded the Sept. 11 attacks.
In December, the joint inquiry produced a summary of findings and recommendations on how to improve intelligence, but the complete report was withheld so agencies could review and declassify some portions of it.
Graham, who will officially announce his presidential campaign Tuesday, has said he thinks much of the delay is because agencies and the administration want to avoid embarrassment, not for valid national security reasons.
Goss, Graham and staff director Eleanor Hill had hoped to release the final report by February or March. Now they are hoping to release it Memorial Day, Goss said.
"I'm very frustrated this has taken this long," said Goss, a retired CIA officer with close ties to the administration. "There's a tendency for every executive to keep matters closed up, but most of what's in dispute should be made public."
Hill said she could not discuss the specifics of the information in dispute, but said a working group of intelligence officials objected to including some testimony from public hearings last fall and some data in her interim reports.
"Maybe they didn't realize it had already been made public, but we see no reason to keep it out of the report," said Hill, a former Pentagon inspector general.
An intelligence official familiar with the review process said on condition of anonymity Monday that "the process has taken time because many portions of the report need to remain classified to protect sources and methods."
The official would not comment on specific issues in the report, and said "we hope to complete the process by the end of this month."
But an official familiar with the report said one topic of disagreement was the so-called Phoenix memo of July 2001, in which an FBI agent warned his supervisors that Osama bin Laden's followers might be enrolling in U.S. flight schools.
The joint inquiry, in a Sept. 24 staff report, included portions of the memo and summarized how it was handled and ignored by FBI officials. Most of the memo is on several Internet sites. Now intelligence officials want to block releasing excerpts of the memo.
Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, the ranking Republican on the Senate committee during the investigation, said: "The memo should be declassified except for portions that might compromise an ongoing investigation."
The Bush administration also consistently have fought identifying top officials, including the president and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, who may have received warnings in 2001 that bin Laden's network planned to hijack commercial aircraft.
As a result, the report includes vague references to "senior administration officials."
"We fought that argument (to name officials) and lost," said Goss. "There's a history in these types of reports, going back many presidencies, that you do not mention the president of the United States, period."
Goss said there was "no cover-up of vital information" and predicted the final report will include some embarrassing details but "no 'gotcha' material about any administration."
Roemer, an Indiana Democrat, said he sees a pattern of "overclassification" by an administration unwilling to disclose information and agencies that reflexively fight disclosure.
When Roemer recently tried to read transcripts of closed-door interviews from last year's probe, the Justice Department blocked him, citing possible executive privilege.
Bush officials relented after Roemer publicly complained the administration was not following its pledge of cooperation with the independent investigation.
"There is a tight definition of what should be classified, and it does not include references to mistakes, missed communications or political embarrassments," he added.
(Knight Ridder Newspapers correspondent James Kuhnhenn contributed to this report.)
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Associated Press Puts Violent Words in Iraqi Protesters' Mouths
© 2003 Associated Press
On 30 April 2003, the Associated Press newswire carried the photo above and a related article headlined, "U.S. Troops Fire on Iraq Protesters Again." The story concerned the second time US forces had shot Iraqis engaged in anti-US protests, this time killing two of them and wounding 18.
Funny thing is, this article misreported the banner pictured above. As you can see, AP's own photograph shows the sentence: "Sooner or later US killers we'll kick you out." But this is how AP reported it:
"Sooner or later US killers we'll kill you," read an angry banner in English unfurled in the faces of GIs on guard in the central city.
Let's just say that there's more than a shade of difference between "we'll kick you out" and "we'll kill you."
Below is the portion as it ran on ABC News' Website.
Full Example Of ABC's Version Here
This article ran, most often without the photo, in dozens of news Websites around the US and the rest of the world, including USA Today, ABCNews.com, CBS News, Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, Chicago Sun-Times, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Ha'aretz (Israel), Guardian (London), Globe and Mail (Toronto), and dozens of local newspapers. There's no telling how many printed papers ran it. The screenshot below from Google News shows some of the news sites that ran the inflammatorily wrong information:
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CONTRIBUTOR ARCHIVES
Wrap It In The Flag
A BUZZFLASH READER COMMENTARY
by Bill Chickering
George W. Bush has a simple public relations plan.
First, box up all the lies, the disdain for working Americans, and the sneering
contempt for anything or anyone who is not utterly white, utterly straight, and utterly
Christian. Speak of freedom abroad while you strip it away at home. Rule your country
by executive fiat rather than the consent of the governed.
Second, appeal to people's most base prejudices and fears. Tell them that the threat
from unseen enemies is imminent, and permanent.
Third, fabricate a war and send America's finest young men and women to do what
you would not do -- fight for your country.
Fourth, alter the tax code to elevate those at your economic level and step on the neck
of those who pay the nation's bills.
Take all of this -- the unending lie, the attitude of a bully taunting little kids while his
rich daddy stands behind him, and the gun you'll put to the head of anyone who
crosses you.
Then wrap it all in the American flag.
Wear that flag on your lapel. Make sure it's waving close by whenever you stand at
another microphone and lie straight faced to a room full of people who believe they
can trust you.
Always make sure that the flag is the message. Don't give people time to think about
the nation you're leading to chaos and economic collapse.
Don't let people know that while you speak longingly of God, you espouse repressive
religious bigotry and seek freedom of religious expression for the Christian right and
them alone.
Don't give people the chance to think. Keep them busy with symbols and religious
bromides and non-stop incessant blather about how God loves us above all other
nations.
Continue to talk of patriotism and sacrifice (not your sacrifice, of course, but theirs)
long enough and pretty soon people may even believe that the loss of their job was a
patriotic act.
The greatest threat to George W. Bush is not the soft and spineless Democratic Party.
It's a populace that may one day decide to wake up. It's a populace that one morning
may look at his juvenile sneer, the flag on his lapel, and their own empty economic
future, and utter the one word that brings them back to their senses.
"Bullshit!"
Bill Chickering
White Bear Lake, MN
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i'm considering posting this very exerpt on every lamp post, building, empty wall, bill board, stall room door, bus stop, and fence around the city. although i'd probably be arrested for "vandalism" and kept incarcerated indefinitely for being a "threat" and a "terrorist". after all, what can be more dangerous than the truth? wheelslip, thanks for the post; and bill chickering, thanks for making it "postable".
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