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worried about ? #231055 44 h 19worried about ?
Worried about death and possibly going to a hell ? The ‘holy’ books of each religions hammers the fact that 90+% of ever created humans will end up in hell and burn for eternity… ETERNITY folks ! You can thank that to the two copulating selfish, reckless idiots also knowns as ‘your’ ‘mom’ and ‘dad’!View all messages by #231055 on this forum, all forums.-
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This is a reply to # 2,466,811Coward NPC zombies be like: 'this world is run by satan who resides under japan, everything is poisoned, nothing is affordable, this world is worse than hell' Same coward NPC zombie ....
Coward NPC zombies be like: 'this world is run by satan who resides under japan, everything is poisoned, nothing is affordable, this world is worse than hell'
Same coward NPC zombies 5 seconds later be like: 'we are expecting triplets and planning 19 more to have two full soccer team... these *Preventionists are so reckless, selfish, hateful and troll like...'
*Preventionists are the only true/real moral, ethical, loving, responsible, compassionate, noble humans on earth since they are preventing THE ROOT cause of ALL evil and problems by abstaining from forcing the root cause into existence via breeding like unconscious wild animals/beast/NPCs/zombies/bots in the first place: humans.
The world is not evil, breeders and prospective breeder ARE, since they are the spark that starts the creation of evil and problems.
You can thank a breeder for ALL the evil, problems and everything wrong in this world.
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’Germs’ are real, just not the cause of poor health. ’Germs’ are cells which mutated into ’germs’(mold, bacteria, fungus, or solvents such as ’virus’) because the body is poisoned from outside ....
'Germs' are real, just not the cause of poor health.
'Germs' are cells which mutated into 'germs'(mold, bacteria, fungus, or solvents such as 'virus') because the body is poisoned from outside and or from the inside(fermenting food in the GI tract).
The 'germ' THEORY of 'dis-ease' religion is the foundation religion of the organised, religion which stems from its father religion, the ancient sun worship repackaged/renamed to: heliocentric cosmology religion.
The inversion of reality 101.
These two religions are extremely profitable for both conventional and non-conventional 'professional' clowns. Why ?
FEAR of 'germs' SELLS.
Make the sheeple fear the harmless germs which are just doing their jobs as clean up crew and make the sheeple ignore and LOVE and DEFEND the extremely toxic anti-germ man made industrial chemicals, the root cause of ALL 'dis-ease'.
It is the perfect scam.
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Zapping is bullshit
I get so sick of coming on to every curezone forum only to see a handful of hucksters offering zapping to cure everything.
As someone who zapped every which way but loose for a decade I can tell you with 100% authority it doesn't cure anything. It doesn't give you immortal blood. Bob Beck is a fraud or a skitzoid and Hulda Clark didn't cure anything.
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Funny, this is exactly what the FDA was telling me...
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Funny, this is exactly what the FDA was telling me until they talked to our customers. They found out that according to our customers that our products did work and as a result of that the FDA sta ....
Funny, this is exactly what the FDA was telling me until they talked to our customers. They found out that according to our customers that our products did work and as a result of that the FDA stated that our products were rated as class III medical devices when sold for use on humans or animals or to treat or cure disease or illness. For that reason, we only sell them as experimental water treatment devices ( not for consumable water ).
So, you just used the wrong one or perhaps, you may not have used it properly.
Our zappers do not cure anything and do not heal. They only do one thing, they kill microbes such as bacteria, protozoa, fungi, etc.
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”Zapping” cured me of a 16 year infection that caused CFIDS, cured me of a month long lung infection, cured me of a STD, cured me of candida, and generally improved my health till at 46 I was raci ....
"Zapping" cured me of a 16 year infection that caused CFIDS, cured me of a month long lung infection, cured me of a STD, cured me of candida, and generally improved my health till at 46 I was racing motocross and beating 20 year old kids.
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Maybe you should think about why there aren’t more comments. Many vendors and buyers have abandoned the site in protest at the harassment they have experienced. There are some excellent testimonials...
Maybe you should think about why there aren't more comments. Many vendors and buyers have abandoned the site in protest at the harassment they have experienced. There are some excellent testimonials krunker, including some helminth-related results, posted as long back as 10 to 15 years ago if you bother to look.
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[quote] I get so sick of coming on to every curezone forum only to see a handful of hucksters offering zapping to cure everything. [/quote] That’s why i have posted some critics in the past, to ....
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I get so sick of coming on to every curezone forum only to see a handful of hucksters offering zapping to cure everything.
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That's why i have posted some critics in the past, too many unjustified claims or vague suggestions, not any objective proofs (and by that i mean empirical experiments and observations and measures of the effects, so no excuse for the zappers sellers...).
(cool, it seems i can post again in the Zapper Support Forum , thanks Webmaster :) )
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Glad to see that you have been restored.
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This is a reply to # 2,276,287Glad to see that you have been restored. Perhaps you might want to consider why there are few posts. There have been a number of sellers and many more users that have left in disgust due to har ....
Glad to see that you have been restored.
Perhaps you might want to consider why there are few posts. There have been a number of sellers and many more users that have left in disgust due to harassing posts. If you bother to look hard enough, there are some very good testimonials that were posted as far back as 10 to 15 years ago, including some successes with helminths.
There was a period of time in which there was a number of these posts that were lost due to a server crash.
There also has been a number of other posts that were forced to the debate forum because of people who come on here and heckle, so you might look back in there too.
The real problem to me is that there have been constant attacks about claims from our previous products that we do not make for our current products due to legal restrictions. Sadly, these are claims for which we can not provide evidence without risk of imprisonment. Whenever someone posts an accusatory statement, it is like an inquisition rather than a fair public trial. We are not allowed to say anything in defense despite any evidence that we may have otherwise.
The real problem with this is that some posters are making claims that are unjustified, such as claiming that products do not work when they have never tried them. That is as unjustified as anything else.
If you have used Beck and failed then it is fair to state so. If you used a standard 30 kHz zapper and failed, then it is fair to state so. If you have used any other brand of zapper, it is fair to state that you have used that brand and failed to achieve results for your specific needs. However, just because you happen to drive a Simca and it does not go over 100 mph does not mean that no car ever built in France is a poor race car. ( I use Simca as an example because I once owned one. )
It is fair to say that a particular zapper caused a particular problem for the user such as the Terminator caused small round burns on my skin. It is not fair to claim that all zappers cause skin burns.
The same thing is fair for sellers and manufacturers. When a company surveys it users and 97 percent of respondents report positive improvement for a certain specific concern or usage, that is fair reporting. For a company to report that their products has a 60 percent success rate for a specific application, that is also fair. A success rate of 60 percent is actually far better than some medications.
The truth is, due to individual variations, not everyone is going to get the same results. It is also true that the same person may not always get the same results. That is why, when I use a zapper or anything else, and the results are not immediately what I expect, I do it again. The same is true for whatever I am trying provided there is not a significant risk of injury due to excessive application.
So in fairness when someone posts either success or failure in regards to zapping, they should report the product that they have used, and specifically how it was used, how long a session was, and how many sessions were tried, as well as the extent of the success. In some cases, a 10 percent improvement can be significant.
If I start to come down with the symptoms of the flu, use a product, and the symptoms drop to 50 percent, that would make me very happy, If it just completely went away which has been an amazing experience for me, I AM THRILLED!
Good to see you back and I hope that you can continue to make more positive contributions.
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This is a reply to # 2,275,589Since this is in the Herpes Simplex forum, I will call you on your BS. Ever since childhood, I had frequent oral herpes outbreaks. However, I started using the zapper in 2000-2001, and realized ....
Since this is in the Herpes Simplex forum, I will call you on your BS.
Ever since childhood, I had frequent oral herpes outbreaks. However, I started using the zapper in 2000-2001, and realized about 2003 that I had not had one single herpes outbreak since I first started zapping.
I have never had an outbreak since then. Is it possible that something else made it go away? Perhaps, but in my opinion, it was the zapping that worked for me.
Perhaps it was the zappers that you used, or the method, or something else.
I will say this, the Herpes virus lives in the nerves, not in the blood, so a Beck zapper is going to be useless against that. Perhaps a pulser might have helped but I am not betting on that either.
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This is a reply to # 2,275,589Oh David, David, David... You never answered me about HOW you zap, and what environmental issues might at play--the constant failure speaks only to a failure on your part to do zapping properly. Y ....
Oh David, David, David... You never answered me about HOW you zap, and what environmental issues might at play--the constant failure speaks only to a failure on your part to do zapping properly. Your obvious disappointment and bitter rage are misdirected, guy.
It's physics. So maybe it's because you're an alien, or something, eh? Being that different could explain. Do light bulbs fail to work for you to?View all messages by #461 on this forum, all forums.
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Vegan BS
About vegans using against antinatalism the same point that carnists bring against vegans is absolutely true. I've seen vegans literally appeal to nature just like carnists to justify procreation ... Absolute clowns. As if they lose all of their ability to argue logically as soon as the topic changes. Just like lefties who against veganism but will speak against injustice in every other situation.
Vegans lose all ability to think critically. My favourite is "but we need more vegans and that's why vegans should have kids"...pretty sure most of us didn't come from vegan parents. My good friend in Calgary worked with someone who was raised on a sanctuary with vegan beliefs. He now calls himself a loose-moral vegan consuming non-vegan foods and wearing canada goose. And this isn't an isolated incident either. But yes, let's pop out more humans and gamble with animals' lives while also taking the risk of someone contributing to a system you are actively trying to dismantle. Total clowns, honk, honk. And yes, the non-vegan leftists are just as cringe. They blame the corporations and use indigenous culture to absolve themselves of any accountability.
"but we need more vegans and that's why vegans should have kids" Exploiting their kids, other sentient beings, as a means to an end, without obtainable consent. And they claim to be vegan?
It is perfectly fine (according to vegans and animal rights activists) to reduce the suffering of animals but it is perfectly unacceptable to reduce the suffering of humans by stopping breeding, aka by stopping imposing on innocent souls, against their will, without their consent/permission, a lifelong of exploitation (from all points of views), suffering and finally: DEATH.-
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‘Misery loves company’... that’s the natalists’/breeders’, aka the breediots’ motto, they want someone to be miserable with them so they force innocent souls (against their will, without their con ....
‘Misery loves company’... that's the natalists’/breeders’, aka the breediots’ motto, they want someone to be miserable with them so they force innocent souls (against their will, without their consent/permission) into this existence of a pointless lifelong exploitation (from all points of views), suffering and finally: DEATH.
Pharma Corps need more test subjects! Have more kids!!
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'happy' birthday legna 25 m 273'happy' birthday
There is nothing 'happy' about birth days.
Happy 1 year closer to death day would be a more accurate description.
Would you celebrate the day you were raped?
Would you celebrate the day you were condemned to a lifelong suffering, death and eternity in hell, when your breediot ‘parents’ forced you into existence against your will, without your permission/consent?
Would you celebrate the day you were forced into hell?
first they decided on your behalf that you wanted to come here then, they are deciding on your behalf that you want to stay here but you do not know it yet or you are just sick in the head. why? why the f do breediots feel entitled to decide for someone else?. why do breediots think they know what is best for someone else?. why do breediots want to impose their beliefs, their wishful thinking and fairy tales on someone else?
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I mean who will participate in the rat race and make the 1% wealthier and wealthier if the sheeple/breediots decide to stop forcing others against their will into this heavenly dimension of suffer ....
I mean who will participate in the rat race and make the 1% wealthier and wealthier if the sheeple/breediots decide to stop forcing others against their will into this heavenly dimension of suffering, exploitation, slavery and death?-
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The fruit and wonders of breeding and breediots:
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At least the funeral industrial complex LOVE breediots. How could the funeral industrial complex become AND stay filthy rich without breediots?
At least the funeral industrial complex LOVE breediots.
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This is a reply to # 2,452,925The summary of ”life” is having to fight to get a grueling and enslaving job in order to survive knowing that sooner or later you will die anyway and that it can be at any time. And, if you ar ....
The summary of "life" is having to fight to get a grueling and enslaving job in order to survive knowing that sooner or later you will die anyway and that it can be at any time.
And, if you are a sheep , you will try to breed new human beings who will do exactly the same as you. And, as if that were not enough, we do it without even knowing if life has any meaning or purpose.
Only to stay alive one more day to continue suffering and struggling to fulfill the endless needs that we have to continue perpetuating this torment.
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how can you believe god is love and merciful yet hold the idea that he will torture most people in hell forever , not even Hitler was that sadistic . It’s bad enough that our lives are hard on ....
how can you believe god is love and merciful yet hold the idea that he will torture most people in hell forever , not even Hitler was that sadistic .
It’s bad enough that our lives are hard on earth , yet this demiurge god threatens to torture billions of people in hell forever if they don’t feed his narcissism.
I implore you to question this entity you are blindly worshipping
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More wonders, beauty and creation of breediots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exyQ724_2nk
More wonders, beauty and creation of breediots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exyQ724_2nk-
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Whenever breediots complain about life… their ‘high’ IQ does not let them realise that they have imposed the things they complain about on their children, how ‘loving’ and ‘cute’... Sheeple’s ....
Whenever breediots complain about life… their ‘high’ IQ does not let them realise that they have imposed the things they complain about on their children, how ‘loving’ and ‘cute’...
Sheeple's dependence on legal and illegal drugs, alcohol and counseling proves that sheeple absolutely LOVE life and are not at all miserable/depressed. Don’t impose someone (i.e. your children) to something (i.e. life) you yourself cannot handle! I am so tired of litter and and breediots!
This is why I am childfree and anti-natalist (i.e. pro-mercy/empathy, or anti-death/suffering). To spare my non-existent children from suffering, pain, age and death, aka from all the ‘gifts’/ ‘wonders’ of life .
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the wonders of life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzbU-9L1WS4
the wonders of life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzbU-9L1WS4
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Social Media Dangers Documentary — Childhood 2.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He3IJJhFy-I&t=3303s
The 'heaven' breediots are forcing innocent souls into... how wonderful, intelligent, smart, intellectual, moral, ethical, logical, rational and unselfish......
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The fruit of breediots continues
Breediots creating and perpetuating endless + pointless suffering and DEATH = loving, moral, ethical, rational, logical, unselfish... breediot 'logic' 101
Pro-mercy/ pro-empathy/ anti-suffering/ anti-death people NOT wanting to create and perpetuate endless + pointless suffering and DEATH = hateful... breediot 'logic' 101
The IQ levels of breediots are for sure in the single digit...
Here is what breediots are creating and perpetuating, how cute, and they are probably proud of it, see breediots hard at work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwDAaKJXKPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=771PoYw8Lrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me4FqdrmVBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiSRCPiklhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnHizRC6S8U
The core of AntiNatalism is mercy and empathy. Antinatalism really must be renamed to what it really is: Anti-Suffering/Death and/or Pro-Mercy/Empathy. The greatest thing you can do with life is not to pass it on. If you enjoy it then enjoy it for yourself , but never impose it on another. You want to become a REAL hero? You CAN by not creating more suffering and death through breeding.
Children are a coping tool for miserable people who are too afraid to walk this world alone and not fit in.
The most revolutionary thing that a worker(i.e. a slave, aka YOU) can do is to become conscious of his/her condition and to not reproduce himself/herself.
Humans toiling away to make it safely to their death beds. Wow. Breediots are truly an ‘intellectual’ species.
Every human comes into this world against his will and in great suffering, every human also has to undergo the suffering process of dying against his will . What's in between holds lots of sorrows. Better never to have been.....
From the cradle to the grave men/women/children are beset by pain and suffering in all their forms.
If you want a child....go adopt! So many children have been forced against their will, without their consent/permission into this ‘heavenly’ world.....give ‘love’ and a home someone who is ALREADY here!!
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This is a reply to # 2,452,907Even calling god a ”cosmic abuser” might be being far too nice to it. That title doesn’t even begin to reflect the infinite amount of suffering it causes. Even the most awful and terrible pers ....
Even calling god a "cosmic abuser" might be being far too nice to it. That title doesn't even begin to reflect the infinite amount of suffering it causes.
Even the most awful and terrible person (like breediots) you could possibly imagine would still have infinitely more worth and means to be redeemed than this so called "god." There is not a punishment imaginable that you could give this entity that would be enough to right the wrongs it has done.
There is not an insult disrespectful enough in any language ever made that is as disrespectful as it deserves to be called. This god doesn't even deserve to be called a "He" or even "They" since that would be implying there is more to it than just a pathetically repulsive and cold empty framework of malice.
'Captivity relationship' is very accurate, especially when jesus is a shepherd and his followers are the flock.🐏 🐑
The wolf won't be a threat if it has it's own game. Sheep spend their whole life fearing the wolf not realizing that the shepherd wants them fat for slaughter.
Indifference is equivalent to evil for a creator that knows evrything and can do anything... so true.
Gnostics have been saying this for 2000 years and they were called heretics and were murdered, their scriptures burned.
P.S. Trapper the breediot is soooo american/pro free speech/pro 1st amendment that he: censors, silences, deletes comments and does not allow people commenting about facts/reality/truth in 'his' forum... but what would one expect from a breediot...
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The fruit of breediots legna 25 m 161The fruit of breediots
This is what breediots create, perpetuate and are proud of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqtfErznKnQ-
Life is a gift: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...
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Life is a gift: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5UzaaxLo00
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Cause of death? East Sun 5 y 382Cause of death?
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my guess is eating plants or not enough red meat or both.
my guess is eating plants or not enough red meat or both.
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Wow, this is kind of insulting to me. Curezone seems to have this animosity for doctors and I'm not sure why. Way to ruin my dreams of being a psychiatrist.View all messages by #101677 on this forum, all forums.-
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we’re just stating the facts. If that makes you not want to be a psychiatrist that’s a healthy sign. If you can make it through all that schooling with your heart, and not turn into ”one of the ....
we're just stating the facts. If that makes you not want to be a psychiatrist that's a healthy sign.
If you can make it through all that schooling with your heart, and not turn into "one of them" those only interested in pharmacology or talk therapy, maybe you can change the system for the better.
It's best you learn where you stand now before you waste all that time and money to become someone who is a glorified drug pusher.
You can do that with a bachelors degree as a pharmaceuticals rep.
Become a nurse in only a few years and you can really care for people and make good money.
Why do you want to become a doctor? My son just wanted a nice car with plates that impress.
It's all good. Keep learning here and there.
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I want to be a doctor to help people, I believe human beings like ourselves were made to help other less fortunate people. Oh yea and I think you guys should seriously research on your facts instead of watching Scientology propaganda.
I showed this thread to open-minded people who have a diversity of knowledge in the medical field, here's what one replied after seeing this video *and he's seen it way before I showed it to him too*
"That video is from the CCHR-a front group for the Church of Scientology. I've seen that video, in its entirety. Its a piece of propagandist & unfairly presented data, with every bit of shock value intentionally added to it such as gory music & dark pictures when psychiatrists are interviewed, and then happy music when CCHR members are interviewed.
Several of the doctors in that video are not credible research doctors. Several doctors in there are, but their comments are taken out of context. For example, one of the psychiatirst in the video, I've met personally and he doesn't back CCHR in any way shape or form. He was interviewed for several minutes & they only took a few moments out his interview--the moments that they could splice that they could exploit.
Is it true that there aren't lab tests in psychiatry? Yes and no. We use behaviors we gauge, and obtain history from interviews, but we also rule out medical causes of mental illness such as for example hypothyroidism. We use a urine drug screen for example to rule out drug induced psychosis. There is for example no specific lab test that can prove or disprove if a patient is depressed. However any medstudent knows this is true of several medical disorders, psychiatric or not.
We often base diagnosis on clusters of symptoms which several medical professions do because they too are in a state where labs tests cannot yet diagnose their disorders. E.g. Still's disease-a disease that affects the kidneys? Would CCHR, Szasz or the Church of Scientology then keep consistent with their logic & deny the existence of Still's disease?
Take for example Lupus. It too is diagnosed based on clusters of symptoms.
Diabetes too was once diagnosed based on clusters of symptoms & not lab tests because the science from decades ago was not yet advanced enough to dx it. Doctors often had to resort to tasting urine, & had to have a sensitive palate to be able to detect it. Does that disprove diabetes existed before the advent of modern testing methods?
As for psychiatry--yes we're not at that point yet where we can apply lab tests for much of it. Does that invalidate mental illness? Well look at it this way. 100 years ago when blood sugar tests were not yet available, would that prove that diabetes did not exist?
And as a contradiction to their own argument--they criticize psychiatry for lack of lab tests--but at the same time, for psychiatry to get a proper lab test created--research into psychiatric illness, on the order that CCHR demands would involve invasive lab testing into human subjects' brains. E.g. drilling holes into the brains of people mentally ill to gauge neurotransmitter levels & such. Yet they criticize research that was once done in that area decades ago before proper human rights have been identified to protect subjects & blame psychiatry for engaging in it.
As for Thomas S. Szasz, he's associated himself with CCHR which is a known front group for the Church of Scientology and he basically advocates that there's no such thing as mental illness, but at the same time offers treatment for it.
It is completely true that sometimes patients get involuntarily committed due to errors in the system. Just like cops sometimes detain suspects who turn out to not be guilty, just like people who are suspected of carrying Ebola might get quarantined, even if it turned out they were not carrying it. Is that unfair? Of course it is. However the right way to handle it is to have 3rd party evaluation, anonymous whistle blowing oppurtunities, mental health advocates & under cover investigators frequently double check institutions that engage in involuntary hospitalization to make sure the system is working fairly. That is going on and I fully advocate that such measures be put into place, and that any psychiatrists who are unfairly holding patients without justifiable cause be pointed out & dealt with, just like a crooked cop should be brought out.
If you want to allow the mentally ill to walk free, even those that are dangerous to others--ok fine, then let that guy infected with Ebola walk around, give people the freedom to buy, sell & eat rotten meat without inspection & let murderers go free because they should have the right to kill who they want, we won't need any police officers arresting anyone. "I have to say, I think his post had pretty valid points, more so than that video. Seriously, didn't anyone else think the former video was either too staged or cheezy anyway? With all those affects and such, that's just another thing to add but I guess that's what propaganda is.View all messages by #101677 on this forum, all forums.-
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You’re not stating any facts at all, what you are doing is spreading folly propaganda and raising the delusional paranoia of the anti-psychiatrist industry. There is thread about this very topic f ....
You're not stating any facts at all, what you are doing is spreading folly propaganda and raising the delusional paranoia of the anti-psychiatrist industry. There is thread about this very topic from here in a student doctor forum, you would all do well to check it out and perhaps if you can prove yourself to be right, sign up and prove these non-biased people by giving concrete statements instead of ad hominems and straw hats.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=563750
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The last thing anyone should be is a psychiatrist!!!
""" Curezone seems to have this animosity for doctors and I'm not sure why."""
You may want to re-read the motto/slogan, whatever you call it.
""EDUCATING INSTEAD OF MEDICATING""
I fell bad for anyone with ambitions of wanting to help people and believe that it can be done through the psychiatric profession.
Psychiatrists have the highest suicide rate of any profession.
The reason could be that its not possible to really help people through psychiatry.
There is another statistic regarding this profession and that is the number of students entering college to become one has been plummeting each year.
If you were to look into it you will probably find that there would be few in your company if you were to roll down that fateful slope.
The real deal has been slowly creeping into the forefront regarding these guys, and its not pretty.
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This is a reply to # 1,260,148this is possibly the most b******ded post i’ve ever read. there are so many erroneous statements here i’m at a loss as to where to begin. lets start with the opening line: 1) ”...the root cause ....
this is possibly the most b******ded post i've ever read. there are so many erroneous statements here i'm at a loss as to where to begin. lets start with the opening line:
1) "...the root cause of each person's illness is to cure it, not just treat the symptoms."
not true. in medicine there are a number of diseases; diabetes, asthma, alzheimer's disease, pretty much any genetic disorder (and there are hundreds of them) that we cannot cure, and yes in fact simply treat the symptoms.
2) "candida"
so i presume you work in a prison/hospital and see "candida" on everybodys tongue, therefore you conclude candida is the cause of whatever mental disorder they suffer from. i assume most of your patients have feet too, why not blame their feet for their problems?
first of all, white crap on somebodys tongue does not equal candida, candida is a fungal infection, usually found in the immunocompromised or diabetics, and it is a specific diagnosis confirmed via cultures of tongue scrapings. i too work in a hospital, see dozens of mentally ill people everyday, and have seen only 2 confirmed cases of candida so far this year.
3) "Psychiatrists have the highest suicide rate of any profession"
physicians in general, not psychiatrists specifically, have the highest suicide rate per profession. but you know what population has an even higher suicide rate? untreated mentally ill males.
4) " number of students entering college to become one has been plummeting each year"
again false. check the electronic residency application service ( aamc.org )
which matches graduating med students to residency programs and you'll find the number of psychiatry residency applicants is actually increasing every year.
the fact is that mental illnesses are complex disorders best approached from a biological, psychological, and social perspective. the interplay of these three factors are key in determining a persons succeptibility to mental illness. why is it that one guy loses his job and simply gets bummed out for a few days while another has a complete mental breakdown?
unlike many other fields of medicine we can't simply hook somebody up to an EKG or order a blood test to answer that question. this frustrates and confuses many simple minded people, like the original poster, and so they seek out simpler explainations regardless of how m*o*o*nic they may be (ie candida). i'm getting bored typing this so i assume you must be getting bored reading this, so let me end by saying if you're going to attempt to discuss a scientific topic please at least READ some scientific texts first and don't just spout whatever nonsense rolls off the top of your head.
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Your so right!!
Feel better now?
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Your so right!!
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a psychiatrist!!!
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a psychiatrist!!!
You are the total g*o*o*n.
You are the reason this site was generated. This site is for people who were abused and neglected by the medical system you worship. It's too late for the ones your system killed.
What are you here for? No one paid you. Didn't you get enough joy hurting people today?
You are the sick one. That's why people like you get into psychiatry. Go back to pushing drugs on killzone.com/tota.View all messages by #68716 on this forum, all forums.-
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”You are the total m*o*o*n” ha! great response einstein. um, you failed to address any of the fallacies you posted that i so kindly pointed out to you were blatantly wrong. i do not ”worship” ....
"You are the total m*o*o*n"
ha! great response einstein. um, you failed to address any of the fallacies you posted that i so kindly pointed out to you were blatantly wrong.
i do not "worship" the medical system, i respect the scientific method as a means to better understand ourselves and the world around us. Why am i here? because i believe ignorance is a bad thing and i feel sorry for any confused souls who may stumble upon these scientologist/cult propaganda videos you've posted and get mislead by them.
you're obviously not too bright and incapable of making an intelligent argument so please don't view my posts as an attempt to engage you in debate. but to anyone who happens to come across this page, don't believe the hype! this is pure propaganda and fear mongering. there are enough reputable websites around with information about medicine that are backed by REAL science. this guy is just a paranoid freak with a computer.
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Spanish Town Loses Over A 100.000 lbs with the Atlantic Diet!
Last year, the Spanish town of Narón launched a healthy lifestyle initiative for its almost 40,000 residents. The goal was for the residents to lose a combined 220.462 lbs. (100.000 kg) in 2 years. In other words, and through medical monitoring, the town’s residents had to eat healthily and exercise. [1]
Although the average rate for obesity in Spain is 17.03%, in the region of Galicia, it’s 19.18%. While this may seem high for Spain, it’s much lower than the U.S. where the lowest obesity rate is 22.6%! [2]
From the town’s 40,000 residents, 3,000 are obese. According to Carlos Piñeiro, the doctor overseeing the initiative, the purpose was to promote a healthier lifestyle, not to lose weight. He added;
“Our town had a rate among the lowest in Galicia, but Galicia still has a very high rate of obesity.”
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Misconceptions about Vaccines
Many people have different opinions about vaccination, and although the vast majority of parents and doctors approve this method of immunization, it seems like there are more and more people who are against it.
Poor education
The most common cause of vaccine misconception is ignorance of the basic principles of vaccination and vaccines, as well as their beneficial effects, with the emphasis on often fictitious side effects. There are various misconceptions, including unwarranted security that most diseases have already been eradicated, and children should not be vaccinated. The poor education inspires dangerous misinterpretations that the children need to gain resistance against bacteria and viruses on themselves, so the vaccines are undesirable. However, it is difficult to forget the deaths of children who haven’t been vaccinated and have developed the worst form of laryngitis, caused by a bacterium against which the vaccine is administered routinely, a Hib vaccine against H. Influenzae.
The principle on which the functioning of immunization is based is simple. In order for an organism to overcome the disease, it must know against whom it is fighting. Our natural system of defense, the immunity, is not capable of defeating all the possible bacteria and viruses that attack it. When confronting these other types, it is necessary for it to turn to another option, the adaptive immune system. It creates antibodies, the molecules over which the body will learn to defend itself. During the vaccination itself, a certain amount of weakened / dead bacteria or viruses, or their parts, strong enough to produce antibodies, is inserted into the body, and in the next contact, the organism can recognize and defeat them.
Eradicated diseases
Many very dangerous diseases are almost eradicated due to modern methods and the development of medicine. However, people sometimes forget that these dangerous and often deadly viruses have not disappeared, but thanks to the vaccines we have become more resistant to them. Rubella, measles and similar diseases are rapidly coming back in the United States in recent years, and more and more cases of children infected with these viruses appear in this country.
Non-vaccinated children do not only pose a risk to themselves, but also to people around them. The most vulnerable individuals are members of their families and people who are often in contact with them, as vaccine immunity efficacy decreases over the years.
Another myth that doesn’t have a real basis is that too many vaccines can harm the child. The doses that children receive through the vaccines are completely miserable in relation to the bacteria and viruses that surround them daily.
Side effects
Thanks to the enormous pharmaco-technological progress, vaccines are getting better and cleaner, and the side effects are very rare and mild, but the serious one could still happen still happen. Therefore, it is important to explain in detail what could happen to each parent completely because, when they occur, side effects must be recorded and monitored. Every child is an individual for themselves, and this must be respected, even if the probability of a complication is extremely small. When looking at the ratio between benefits from vaccination and their adverse effects, the conclusion is clear, as vaccines are absolutely necessary.
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