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Hey Invisible--
I've checked your blog and there's a lot of neat info but there some questions I haven't been able to have answered.
The first is:
1. how many eggs can I feed a dog per day/week? What's the info on this? I feed my dog (93 lb rottie) one to two eggs a day as a snack or over fruit.
2. I've switched him over to chicken since it has less fat than beef, though I still supplement with 2-3 pounds of beef marrow bones a week. How many pounds of chicken should he be at? Rawmeatybones.com ebook stated that one percent of a larger dogs body weight (and 2-3 percent of a smaller dogs body weight) of meaty bones a day was sufficient. I also understood it (I can't crosscheck because now they're charging for the ebooks) to say that these meaty bones could make up 70% of the diet...except when I did this I think there was too much calcium and it made him constipated. So, now with 4-5 pound chickens cut in half...is this sufficient? I figure he's getting the same amount pound-wise as conventional dog food, if not more...when it's supposed to be the opposite. He's not gained or lost weight, but he'll just continue to eat what I give him (or try to steal food from people/other animals.)
Is this a nutritional behavior (he needs more food/needs more time to get used to RAW diet --he's been on for almost a month) or is this just an obedience training thing where a dog will just go after other food and act like a selfish little pig but it has nothing to do with hunger?
- Re: Invisible: raw food feeding ques... Invincible
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This is a reply to # 987,646I don't think there are hard and fast rules on the eggs. Put eggs under the raw meaty bones section .. that is, eggs are part of the 70% protein needs. Make sure you add the shells for the calcium.
As to nutritional behaviour .. Lol! Yup, dogs are scavangers and will eat just about anything. Mine will eat bread that someone's thrown out for the ducks or some chips (french fries) that he finds in the park. Not a lot you can do about it unfortunately (unless you keep him on a close lead) ... but if that is a small percentage of what he normally eats, then not to worry .. I'm taking a much more laid back approach these days, knowing that a dog's emotional health is more important than a few naughty scraps here and there.
But obedience training is great. If I see the bread/chips or other food first .. I can say "Leave it" and he will (most of the time).
I never got into the weighing of food thing .. I just started to give him so much food that he couldn't finish it .. and then found he would just eat what he wanted and then leave the rest (and sometime buried some in the garden for maturing) .. so i got used to knowing approximately what he needed. My dog is around 20 lbs and is on the equivalent of 3-4 chicken wings each day, .. if I give him more, he won't eat it ... it seems that he can balance himself.
Are you giving him the skin of the chicken as well? He needs the fat for bile production, and that will help with the constipation. From what I've understood, chicken wings have the correct ratio of meat, bone and skin to make it perfect food. If you think he's not getting enough skin, then you can add a little olive oil or fish oil to his diet and see if that helps.
And then there is a day a week, when he just doesn't want to eat anything .. and some days he wants to eat once and sometimes twice. I guess in the wild that would be normal behaviour.
You can look at your dog and as long as you can still see the waist line (looking from the back) then that's a good indication of not being overweight. I know some breeds will keep eating forever, so you can adjust how much you give him based on how he looks.
Of course, it all depends on how much exercise your dog gets too, as to how much food he needs.
Don't stress too much about this, it'll take a few months for you and your dog to adjust .. it's new for both of you. It'll take a little playing around with, but you'll get there.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 987,677Just wanted to tell you sound so relaxed about your dog, I am sure that he even has become more relaxed.
Indeed training is a big help, the dog needs it too, it makes him secure when he understands you and has guidance. It is a pack animal and used to being led or being the leader of a pack. In our human world we are are his pack.
I have not read your blog yet, but I know it is there. I already told my husband when we get a new puppy (our dog is old) I am going to feed it differently.
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This is a reply to # 987,712Yes, it's taken a while to be more intuitive with Baboo ... but I am feeling so much more at ease. I think I was trying to be too perfect before .. not fun for any of us.
We are thinking of getting another puppy in 6-12 months! Baboo is a very sociable dog and although he is with me most of the day, I deeply sense he wants a best friend.- my apologies perusing
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Sorry for mistaking your name-- my brain this week has really been in a mad scientist's lab far, far away.
I'm taking care of a kitten til it hits two pounds. I'm going to start feeding it raw eggs and hope that gets to fast weight gain because this litte cutie is really annoying the s#&(!t out of me. love cats, and I can love kittens for about fifteen minutes but after that the bundles of joy are just fricking annoying.
so-- if feeding eggs to a kitten is bad, holler.- Re: my apologies AilsaRose
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Hi, perusing,
I don't know if raw eggs are ok for kittens or not but I give my adult cats raw eggs two or three times a week. They lap them right up and it makes their coats nice and shiney...silky. How old is the kitten? If you are feeding till it gets to two lbs, I would think that it is fairly young...or has had a rough start to life.
I've always found kittens to be exceptionally entertaining!
~~Ailsa
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MoreThis is a reply to # 987,884Invincible, I'm considering getting a pet dog. I've never had one before and am wondering if you could direct me as to the correct 'type' of dog to get...I'm very layed back, so a puppy would be inappropriate.
Where do I start?- Choosing the right dog Invincible
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This is a reply to # 1,004,628Hi infinitelove
That's a very caring and intelligent question and perhaps one that all potential dog owners need to ask and clarify before jumping in.
I can only share my process when looking for my first dog. I went through loads of web sites and picked out the type of breeds I liked the look of. I then read through their profiles and looked at the type of exercise, grooming needs etc. each breed would need.
I had to consider how much time I had for exercise and whether that would fulfill the dog's personal needs. I also had a BIG consideration that I wanted my dog to come to work with me (at the clinic) and for it to be cute and gorgeous and calm enough that no one would feel threatened by it's size and looks. I also had to take consideration that I am testing others with such as hair samples so I needed a dog that would not moult, therefore have no chance of interfering with my clients hair samples.
Then I made contact with breed clubs and asked them how my needs would suit a certain breed. Doggie people love to talk about their dogs! I had lots of help.
So, it would be wrong for me to say what type of breed you should go for, because there are so many other considerations to take on board.
And you know, the dog will eventually take on your personality. Dogs do that. If you're calm, they will be too. If you get anxious, they will mimic.
When I walk my dog, of course, there are times when I see certain breeds that have been known for violent actions, but I never look at or judge the breed, I just look at the owner, and I already can predict how their dog will act towards me and my dog, just by sensing the owner.
I found this online questionnaire that might help:
http://www.petnet.com.au/selectadog.asp
A lot of the rescue dogs do have a known history. However, within 6-12 months, irrelevant of the background and with a little training and all the love and attention it needs, you'll find the dog will respond in kind with your energy. So, it's not always a worry about what breed or whether they are calm or not .. they will meet you and be just right. It works out that way.
Having read many of your posts, I would suggest this for you: Just go and see some dogs and ask them (silently), "Are we right for each other? Will we heal each other? Will our partnership be mutually beneficial?" .. and then listen inside. Feel what you feel ... you'll have a knowing when the right dog comes.
Love
Maya
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"Having read many of your posts, I would suggest this for you: Just go and see some dogs and ask them (silently), "Are we right for each other? Will we heal each other? Will our partnership be mutually beneficial?" .. and then listen inside. Feel what you feel ... you'll have a knowing when the right dog comes."
Maya,
When reading your answer to previous post...the above advise reminded me of myself and what happened to me 6 years ago. I had just lost two cats and a dog to old age. I was at my local pet food store, that does not sell pets but every Sunday has pet adoption day for local rescue groups. My two remaining dogs (both rescue)and I were socializing with all the people and animals there. While standing and looking at some cats in cages and wishing that I could take them all home with me. I heard a voice in my head saying, "I'm coming home with you."...I looked down and there was a 6 month old grey and black tiger striped kitten in a cage. He had enormous green eyes and was looking right at me. I said, to myself, "No, you're not."
One of the ladies who worked in the group came up to me and strted talking...during our converstation, I mentioned that I had just lost three of my furry friends. She said that I needed another cat. While we were talking, the tiger stripe told me agiain, "I'm coming home with you."...once again, silently, I told him that he wasn't.
Another of the ladies came up and started talking with the first one. And during our conversation for the third time the tiger stripe once again told me that he was coming home with me...each time I heard this he was looking staight at me and made eye contact when I looked at him. Once again, I told him that he couldn't. One of the women went to his cage and picked him up and said that he would make a good kitty for me...that his family had just brought him to the store...turned him in because he was biting and they didn't want him any more. The lady said that she didn't want him to have to start living in a cage. I told her that I didn't have the money for the adoption fee nor the money to have him neutered.
They told me that they knew from talking to me that I would be a good home for the kitten, so they would waive the adoption fee and give me a free neuter certificate. To make a long story shorter, they gave me a carrier to bring him home...waived the adoption fee and gave a free certificate and a free bag of food. While all of this was happening I told one of the ladies that the kitten had told me 3 times that he was coming home with me and that I had been telling him no!
Guess who was right! Yep, the tiger stripe...
Brought him home...found out that even though he hadn't been neutered he had been de-clawed (which I am vehemently against). The de-clawing was the reason he had started biting...I had him broke of biting in a weeks time by working with him. He also when straight to one of my sisal rope scratching posts and started scratching. He still uses the posts and it hurts my heart each time I see him do so as he didn't have to be de-clawed.
He has the sweetest disposition and is a lover...
I named him...
Mojo!
He surely put a magic spell on me!
~~Ailsa
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What a beautiful experience! Thank you so much for sharing how you found Mojo. Your story just made me have lovely goose bumps and a tingle up my spine. It reminds me in many ways of how I found my dog.
Thank you - that was really special.
Love
Maya- Re: Choosing the right dog AilsaRose
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This is a reply to # 1,005,107Maya...
You are most welcomed! I do believe that we are put in certain places at certain times for a reason. The reason I went shopping on that particular Sunday and not the week before or after was so that Mojo could come home with me. I am most thankful that I have him...he brings a lot of joy to me.
I have had a special connection and love for animals all my life. I do believe that it is God's gift to me...
~~Ailsa
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Thank you, Invincible for taking the time to explain this!
Upon using the link you provided, I must admit that I'm drawn toward the Cavalier King Charles spaniel - they're BEAUTIFUL! It would seem, however that when you have a dog that's been pedigreed so long that health issues arise - this particular dog has mitral valve predisposition alongside another malady called Syringomyelia.
It would be terrible to bond with a dog only to see it suffering with maladies that curtail its enjoyment of life. Very expen$ive as well.- Re: Choosing the right dog Invincible
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This is a reply to # 1,005,267The Cavalier King Charles Spaniels are super dogs! Lots of personality and very sweet natured.
I do understand your fear and it was one that I worked through myself. My dog, a Bedlington Terrier, has a predisposition to liver disease. But I never focus on that anymore.
If you get a pedigree, then you should be able to check the history of the parents and those before them. A predisposition is not really the best indicator of future health because they don't take into account what a dog is fed, vaccinated, neutered, or how much it is loved. There are so many variables.
Being a dog carer, you have so much more control over its health than the health of a child, who will eventually grow up and leave home.
Of course, it's important to have pet insurance for emergencies.
Fear is very crippling. It can stop us doing amazing things or having the experience of something totally wonderful because we fear something that may or may not happen. To move away from that means we must live in the 'Now'. The Peace of Now, moment to moment. In each moment, there is no pain. Just 'What Is'
And the fear is never as bad as the actualisation, because when something does happen, a clear mind knows what action to take.
And what is the worse that could happen? A dog gets sick. Yes, it could happen. It can happen to any thing or any one we care for. The worse that could happen is you become even more compassionate, more loving, more caring, more giving, more everything - and isn't that what we are here to learn to be?
To live is to love and be loved unconditionally. I don't know if there is any other purpose for us but to remember that - and that is the way home. And all love, whether short lived or long lived is eternal. Because love never dies. Love takes us home.
And any opportunity to love unconditionally and be loved unconditionally is such sweet ecstasy. It's something I get to experience every day. I look at my dog, he looks at me. A connection. Tail wags. Shivers down my spine. It's a simple act, but these are the moments I feel most happy to experience. Because it's something so pure and honest.
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