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I'm all about the natural medicine myself. I do the colon cleansing, liver flushes, fasts, etc, but I'm considering using Nizoral 2% cream. Not the shampoo because that is very harsh. The cream is fairly cheap and the only side effect I heard of is a possible itchy scalp during the first week. The key ingredient is Ketoconazole (KCZ)
Anyway, I've been seeing some good tests about this product.
Here's one I can quickly recall:
http://www.jdsjournal.com/article/PIIS0923181106002490/fulltext
The pictures look legit and impressive.
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I wouldn't. Androgenetic alopecia is caused by DHT. Block the DHT and the hair will grow back.
I have been doing good on these all natural, no side effect products. Very affordable and safe unlike the big Pharmaceuticals.
I shampoo my hair with this $10 shampoo that washes out the DHT externally. You have to use shampoo you might as well use this.
http://www.nisim.us/
Then I take these pills that block the DHT internally.
http://www.procerin.com/index.htm?1037
Compare natural and drug products here.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 940,477I tried natural DHT blockers like beta sisterol, pumkin seed extract, saw pawmetto, nettle, etc, but I got sexual side effects before I noticed any hair improvement. Right now I'm all about being as healthy as possible, good shampoo, and hair promoting topicals.
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This is a reply to # 940,558I tried natural DHT blockers like beta sisterol, pumkin seed extract, saw pawmetto, nettle, etc, but I got sexual side effects before I noticed any hair improvement.
JAB
Not many get any side effects from Procerin which is one of the few approved treatments. The only side effect is a protected prostate.
Results depends on how many follicles on your scalp are still alive.
Look at the surveys on the independent site.
http://www.askdocweb.com/index.html
Right now I'm all about being as healthy as possible, good shampoo, and hair promoting topicals.
JAB
The Nissim Shampoo might be all you need as it removes DHT from the scalp. Seems to be better than any shampoo I have used in terms of smell and build up removal. You can be as healthy as you want and your hair will still fall out if you don't do something about the DHT.Advertisement
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MoreThis is a reply to # 940,660JAB,
What ingredient in nism removes DHT? I don't even see a weak DHT inhibitor like saw pawlmetto. I also heard that DHT blockers loose their effectiveness overtime. I also noticed that nism shampoo contains sodium laureth sulfate. I'm not sure how close to sodium lauryl sulfate that is, but I heard sodium lauryl sulfate is very bad for the hair.
Another thing I heard is to stop eating all refined sugar. Most people on curezone are all about that anyway. It messes with insulin which can also cause hairloss.
What I learned about the nizoral 2% cream is that is lowers the immunal response in the hair area. When DHT is present the immunal response causes the hair to fall out. Having a lower immunal response on the scalp prevents this from happening. I think I'll still give it a try.
I guess it depends a lot on the person though. Some react great to products while others don't. Everbody is different.
Here are two sites you might want to look into.
http://www.hairsite.com
and
http://www.regrowth.com
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This is a reply to # 941,525What ingredient in nism removes DHT? I don't even see a weak DHT inhibitor like saw pawlmetto.
JAB
I'm not sure but their are many ingredients in it that could. You don't have to have a DHT inhibitor to wash it from the scalp.
I also heard that DHT blockers loose their effectiveness overtime.
JAB
I haven't heard that one. Please site?
I also noticed that nism shampoo contains sodium laureth sulfate. I'm not sure how close to sodium lauryl sulfate that is, but I heard sodium lauryl sulfate is very bad for the hair.
JAB
I have also heard that, but I'm beginning to think it is just a myth.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/07/common_ecomyth_sls.php
Another thing I heard is to stop eating all refined sugar. Most people on curezone are all about that anyway. It messes with insulin which can also cause hairloss.
JAB
I think I'll quit that. Along with breathing.
What I learned about the nizoral 2% cream is that is lowers the immunal response in the hair area. When DHT is present the immunal response causes the hair to fall out. Having a lower immunal response on the scalp prevents this from happening. I think I'll still give it a try.
I guess it depends a lot on the person though. Some react great to products while others don't. Everbody is different.
Here are two sites you might want to look into.
http://www.hairsite.com
and
http://www.regrowth.com
They have tons of activity and also have all natural forums.
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Not to be rude, but where do you get your knowledge about hairloss from? It seems very out of date. Also, please post some before and after pics of your hair so I can see how your regimen is working.- Re: I know it's not natural, but niz... Johny Apple Bomb
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This is a reply to # 950,699Not to be rude, but where do you get your knowledge about hairloss from? It seems very out of date. Also, please post some before and after pics of your hair so I can see how your regimen is working.
JAB
What exact DHT blocker product did you try? Assuming you have male pattern baldness.
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This is a reply to # 953,072Saw Palmetto, Pygeum, Nettles, and Beta Sitosterol. All they gave me was fatigue and sexual side effects.
Did you read the link that I posted in my original message? I've been trying the nizoral cream and I am noticing an improvement.
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This is a reply to # 953,738Saw Palmetto, Pygeum, Nettles, and Beta Sitosterol. All they gave me was fatigue and sexual side effects.
JAB
So you went and bought generic supplements that are generally not what they claim. They just want to sell it anyway they can so they make the product as cheap as possible. Often times the ingredients are diluted and definitely aren't bio available.
The product I chose was recommended by an independent site that has people test them for years. Procerin has been tested since 2003.
http://www.askdocweb.com/procerinstudy.html
Did you read the link that I posted in my original message? I've been trying the nizoral cream and I am noticing an improvement.
Perry
JAB
Maybe you should suggest a test at the Web Site above to see how it works on other people over the long haul.
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This is a reply to # 953,770These were not supplements from walgreens. These were seperate bottles of high quality.
I looked at the the website again....
What are the ingredients in Procerin?
Procerin is a proprietary blend of herbal, mineral, and vitamin components. The 17-ingredient formula of Procerin tablets includes:
Saw Palmetto Berries, Gotu Kola, Nettles, Magnesium, Zinc Sulfate,Eleuthero Root , Vitamin B-6, Pumpkin Seed Meal, and Muira Puma Root. Procerin XT Topical Serum ingredients include Gamma Linolenic Acid, Grape Seed Extract, Azelaic Acid, Saw Palmetto Extract, Avocado Oil, and Nettle.
I see no powerful dht blockers at all in these supplements. Beta sisterol alone is a thousand times stronger than any of these "dht blockers".
JAB, you by chance don't own this company do you?
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This is a reply to # 954,134I see no powerful dht blockers at all in these supplements. Beta sisterol alone is a thousand times stronger than any of these "dht blockers".
JAB
Maybe you have to have a combination of ingredients in the right quantities.
JAB, you by chance don't own this company do you?
Perry
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I thought you would be asking that soon. No, I don't have any affiliation with Procerin at all.
I do have obviously new hair growing in my past bald receding temple area. Other small hairs are visible growing everywhere in the thinning areas on the top of my head. Been on it for about 3 1/2 months. Very inexpensive. I don't know if the topical solution is necessary or not.
There is another copy cat version called Provillus that has similar ingredients but they include minoxidil in the topical. So if you respond well to minoxidil it may work better.
www.provillus.com/
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