getting off milk and dairy 
tinabanana
17 y
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the idea that milk is bad for you has been growing in the back of my mind, i have been reading alot of bits of articles here and there, and its all adding up.
i might not be ready to cut it all out completly but i am interested in going one week with absolutly no dairy. taking the milk out of my cereal in the morning is going to be a challenge, so is cooking without cheese. but for a week i can simply choose recipes that do not include cheese and it should be fine.
so is it mainly milk that is really bad, or is cheese up there? goat cheese, feta cheese, mozzarela, etc.
what about butter and yogourt, that is dairy, do i cut those out?
i was thinking of replacing my morning fiber cereal with some fruit/yogourt smoothies, but how do i replace the fiber. i need that 5-7g every morning for things to function as they should.- Re: getting off milk and dairy r0berta
17 y
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This is a reply to # 931,274
Trust me... I am not saying that you need to make drastic changes to your diet right now - however it sounds like you should (in the future) work on developing a healthier diet. The great thing is, you can still get rid of the yeast and improve your digestion by just making two changes. Either one of these two changes - alone - will improve the health issues you have described.
If you add fruit (which contains fiber anyway) and Kefir (far superior to yogurt) to a morning smoothie - you will be not only be getting your fiber but also repopulating your gut with the necessary beneficial bacteria. If you do this and increase your water intake to equal 1/2 your weight in water, your bowels will function very well. You also will NOT have problems with yeast.
This is such an easy and inexpensive solution. Not only that, but if you drink 1/2 your weight in ounces of water each day - you will easily kick your soda habit. Drinking half your weight in ounces of water means that if you weigh 160 pounds, you should be drinking 80 ounces of water each day - in addition to any other liquids that you consume. This is what ANY normal healthy human should be consuming daily anyway - in order to be properly hydrated.
Benefits of Kefir
Kefir has many benefits including better digestion of fats, proteins and carbohydrates, and has been known for thousands of years for its anti-aging and immune enhancing properties.
* Kefir is an ancient cultured food rich in amino acids, enzymes, calcium, magnesium, phosphorus and B vitamins. Kefir means "feel good" in Turkish, and that's just how you'll feel after drinking a glass in the morning! It is superior to commercial yogurt. An absolute must after antibiotic use!
* Unlike yogurt, kefir can actually colonize the intestinal tract.You can drink Kefir straight, mix it in a smoothie or just mix it with some apple juice. Do a search on Kefir within curezone and on google. Even if you already know something about Kefir, there is so much information out there. You can even learn to make your own.
Roberta
- Re: getting off milk and dairy tinabanana
17 y
1,805
This is a reply to # 931,310i think i will take your suggestion and make my smoothies with kefir. i have never tried it before but mixed in with all the fruits i probably wont see a difference.
how is the stuff that you buy in the stores? acceptable?
my smoothies are usually, 1 banana, 4-6 big straberries, 1/4 cup bluberries, 3-4 tablespoon yogourt, 1-2 tsp coconut oil. so i will probably stick to the same recipe but replace with kefir.
i have no idea how much fiber is in fruits. how much would you say would be in that smoothy i have described above? what are the higher in fiber fruits?
edit: i just did a quick search and im getting about 6.5 grams of fiber out of that smoothy, so that is exactly the same amount i get out of my cereal (without counting the kefir that wasnt in their list). so thats great. here is a calorie/protein/fat/carb/fiber/sodium calculator that works really well:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_food.html
i already drink half my weight in water, or get very close and i dont drink soda anymore.-
Re: getting off milk and dairy r0berta
17 y
2,013
This is a reply to # 931,323I get my Kefir from Kroger or Publix. The brand is called Lifeway. It looks like this:
Here is a link to the Lifeway site with info on Kefir.
http://www.lifeway.net/product/kefir.php
Thanks for the calorie counter link. I will definitely use it.
Roberta
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- Re: getting off milk and dairy tinabanana
17 y
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- Re: getting off milk and dairy Aharleygyrl
17 y
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This is a reply to # 931,274
Yes, it is cheese and all dairy. But, you don't have to give up milk. Buy pacific original rice milk. You can use it for everything you use milk in. I also use pacific original almond milk to drink. I make smoothies with rice milk if I want it to be like milk, otherwise I use water.
Cows produce milk only to feed their baby calf. So, factory farmers (which have all but replaced the small farmer) artificially inseminate them every year which causes them to produce 100 pounds of milk a day, 10 times more than they would in nature. Then, they take their calf from them at only a day or two old. The female calves are slaughtered for the rennet in their stomachs (an ingredient of most commercial cheeses) or used for dairy cows. http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=117
smoothies: http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=144
More milk info:
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=11
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=12
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=22
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=84
Torrie
- what about butter? nm tinabanana
17 y
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- Re: what about butter? nm Aharleygyrl
17 y
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This is a reply to # 931,329
butter is made from milk. i don't know of any subsitite
raw milk:
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&safe=off&cof=&domains=notmilk....
organic milk:
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&safe=off&cof=&domains=notmilk....
soy:
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=150
- Re: what about butter? nm Aharleygyrl
17 y
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- what about butter? nm tinabanana
17 y
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- Re: getting off milk and dairy Ohfor07
17 y
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This is a reply to # 931,274You ask a great question, one that is nearly impossible to provide a fair and accurate answer without first distinguishing the difference between real, genuine milk/dairy and that which has over the recent decades been accepted as the corporate big-agri version of reasonable facsimile of milk/dairy.
When it comes to what currently passes as "milk", this is an example of that which has been made to look like a duck, kinda sorts walks like a duck and maybe even smell something like a duck BUT isn't an actual duck. Go out to any of the commercial grocery outlets big or small that are so easy to find because they litter our neighbhorhoods, and you will find there in great quantity stuff that has establishment sanction to be marketed as though it is milk, the big corps producing such are allowed to sell it as though it is milk, people buy it and drink it believing it is milk, but it's not milk.
If that is the kinda milk stuff you are talking about, if that is the kind of milk stuff you are wanting or trying to get off, by all means do get off it and do not waste any time in trying to do so. - Re: getting off milk and dairy Naturalist
17 y
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This is a reply to # 931,274Pasteurized milk is very bad for you; organic raw milk is very good for you.
While I no longer drink milk, I do use raw goat milk to make yogurt, kefir,and cheese. There is nothing wrong with drinking milk as long as it is raw and organic. And r0berta is totally correct. Kefir is one of the best fermented drinks you can put in your body. I drink it daily. I use to drink 2 quarts a day.
Fiber: I take a TBLS of flax seed, grind it up, and put it in vegetable juice or Perfect Foods every morning. Fruits and vegetables are high in fiber. Breads, muffins, and pancakes made from coconut flour are very high in fiber.
You can make smoothies with fruit alone. I like frozen strawberries, a frozen banana, and yogurt blended together. (You can use almond milk or defrosted fruit as your liquid also.) You can use any fruit in place of the strawberries and you may want to use 2 frozen bananas.
I like to blend together 1 cup of yogurt, a small frozen banana, 1 egg yolk, 1/3 cup of frozen blueberries (or any frozen fruit) After it is blended I add 1-2 TBLS of coconut oil.
For breakfast I like to line a bowl with berries, add 1 cup of yogurt, and then sprinkle it with coconut flakes.
http://www.realmilk.com/
http://www.mercola.com/2003/mar/26/pasteurized_milk.htm
http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/Is-Raw-Milk-Right-For-You--19079.aspx
Butter is very good for you.
http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html
Eat organic butter every day if you so desire.
Wishing You Abundant Health...
- Re: getting off milk and dairy SqueakyClean
17 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 931,274Hey...
5 years ago (or so) I went off dairy, cold turkey. That move quickly cured my allergies completely, as well as my skin became a little more clear (it wasn't bad before). After a few weeks I added back the butter (mostly organic) and kept on that track for several years. The butter is mostly just fat, and a beneficial fat in my opinion.
I would probably take some raw dairy products if I could get them. I can get raw cheeses sometimes, that's about it right now. I do eat some regular dairy occasionally, just because I like cheese and sour cream.
As far as the cereal goes.... a milk substitute (almond, rice or sesame) should do. I am not a big cereal person, but on occasion (such as vacation) I will eat it with cold water poured on it. It doesn't bother me one bit, it accomplishes my goal of wet cereal, but it grosses some people out. I never liked milk so I didn't miss it one bit!
- Re: getting off milk and dairy r0berta
17 y
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