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monique_1
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Eosophinil count 1%
I just wanna lie down and cry.
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Hi Monique. This is a informative reading. It means you have chronic parasite infection. The eosinophil count is low, because it is obviously not responding. It is being suppressed. This is classic for these types of infections.
A high reading would indicate positive for parasites, and active immune-response. It means your body is fighting it and making you sick. This would be for new invaders, such as something you pick-up in the tropics on a trip. Shroom- Re: Some of the test results back fr... monique_1
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Tapeworms, Round worms, Flukes?
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Yes, that makes sense, but tell that to a doc..
this is what I found on a medpage:
"My eosinophil count is zero. Does this mean I am ill?"
"Not at all. In healthy people there are so few eosinophils in the blood that it can happen that the person counting the cells under a microscope does not find any. Nowadays we mostly use machines for this work, and the machines normally cannot count eosinophils at all. So the printed blood report seems to say there are none, but this is meaningless.
I do not know whether there is such a thing as a medical condition in which eosinophils are truly absent. I am certainly not aware of anyone being ill as a result.
In fact a low or zero eosinophil count, if it has been done by a human being instead of a machine, is a good sign. It argues against severe forms of diseases which raise the eosinophil count, including the kind of allergy which can raise the count. Far from being a sign of illness, it could be a sign of good health."
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~aair/eosinophils.htm
My guess is that the antibody/elisa test will show squat because of this. Damn!!!
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This quote from Lyme disease: A Look Beyond Antibiotics tells a lot and it most likely isn't just limited to lyme:
Making the history of a tick bite a condition for a physician to be willing to even consider the possibility of a Bb infection seems cynical and cruel. To use conventional diagnostic tests such as the Western Blot, one has to think in paradoxes: the patient has to be treated with an effective treatment modality first before the patient recovers enough to produce the antibodies, which then are looked for in the test. A positive Western Blot proves that the treatment given worked to some degree. A negative Western Blot does not and cannot prove the absence of the infection. Having taken another route altogether, we have recognized that today many if not most Americans are carriers of the infection. Most infected people are symptomatic, but the severity and type of the symptoms varies greatly. The microbes often invade tissues that had been injured: your chronic neck pain or sciatica really may be a Bb infection. The same may be true for your chronic TMJ problem, your adrenal fatigue, your thyroid dysfunction, your GERD and many other seemingly unrelated symptoms. Many Bb symptoms are mistaken for problems of natural or premature aging.
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Holy smoke!
It's all about immuno-suppression and chronic cases that need to "recover enough to produce the antibodies".
Makes complete sense.
Anyhow, to late for me now... I might have chance to do the tests again (lyme and tox.cara) but how on earth will I in this short time get my antibodies up? I just brought Iodine with me...
stuff like this, always happens to me, always.. bad luck is my second name.
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I found this interesting part in that PDF:
"The pattern of co-infections and the other preexisting conditions such as
mercury toxicity determine the symptom-picture but not the SEVERITY.
The severity of symptoms correlates most closely with the overall
summation or BODY BURDEN of coexisting conditions and with the genetically
determined ability to excrete NEUROTOXINS. The genes coding for the
GLUTATHIONE S-transferase and for the different alleles of apolipoprotein E
(E2, E3 and E4) play a MAJOR role. E2 can carry twice as much sulfhydrylaffinitive
toxins (such as mercury and lead) out of the cell as the E3 subtype,
E4 carries out none. Trouble in the methylation, acetylation and sulfation
pathways is also common. Other factors, such as diet and food allergies , past
toxic and electromagnetic exposures, emotional factors and unhealed
ancestral trauma, scar interference fields and occlusal jaw and bite problems
are also important (6). The severity of symptoms is not related to the number
of spirochetes in the system but rather to the individual’s immune responses."
Finally somebody that is providing some creative thinking. This is ideal information and explains a lot.
*Peel the onion*
I think, If Im ever gonna heal, is to heal up that horribly painful and burning colon I've had for 1,5 years now, something is wrong with the mucosa (too many enemas) and it wont heal, and Im leaking sh*t into every cell in my body.
Im in very very very bad shape, Im almost dead, then why are people that are "healthier" than me suffering almost as much as I?
That PDF is goood
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This is a reply to # 909,156Hi Newport. I printed that whole thing out and read it carefully. It should be essential reading for all chronic sufferers. The range of bacteria and viruses is wide enough to include many other insects as carriers, and the co-infection rate is diverse enough to include a wide range of conditions. I think "lyme disease" proper, will become a very generalized term, as the research compliles on this disease.
Shroom
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this is a common misconception in the industry regarding eosinophil counts. I too have endured this. If its any consilation they weren't anymore concerned when my eosinophils were skyhigh years ago.
Low eosinophil count might be immunosuppressions but also part of this is that eosinophils react more acutely to migrating larvae which occurs more commonly in the acute infection phase. Adult parasites are much more evasive immunologically speaking, hence less eosinophil reaction.
Antibodies are produced by plasma cells (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_cell). I know initially these also increase with parasitic infections to produce specific antibodies to the pathogen as well as memory cells. One of the classes you may have heard of is the IgE antibody which are responsible for a strong immunological reaction, including degranulation of mast cells (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mast_cell) which contribute to allergy symptoms. This may be why many experience allergy symptoms after parasite infection.
All of these mechanisms interact, so suppression of one is likely to effect the others as well.
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Hm.. makes sense, makes sense.
I have many many questions for you on migrating larva, since you have also had/have this?
I do not understand the behaviour of migration. IS it acute, or can it be ongoing? There is NO information on this, anywhere. And the meds are oh so poor in such cases.
parasites should stay near the food source, but Im not sure if that's really true. I got migration during a parasite cleanse, but they do not go back to their place of origin (i.e gut). As time goes by the places where they migrated to have more pain and more movement. Liver, lungs, brain - worse and worse.
You said that one cannot have a fullgrown Ascaris worm in the brain, are you sure?
Have you seen the pics on CZ where some asian guy have an open skull with "maggotts" in it?
Have convential medicine confirmed such cases or to they refer such things as to cancers, tumors? To they acknowledge this at all?
"This may be why many experience allergy symptoms after parasite infection."
Or have many ongoing allergies, constantly, for years and have enormous histamine production. =suppressed immune system from CHRONIC parasitic infections, that further supress the immune system and create a vicous cycle. Im in this boat. No doctor have ever figured out why my body is reacting like this.
How are you doing now btw?
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This is a reply to # 909,190Another thing to remember, is; following an immune attack, there are factors released by cells that are designed to stop it. It is homeostasis of the immune-system. Immune-system activation can kill you very quickly if it is not brought under control fast. After so many activations, it goes into a "general maintenance" role. This is very hard to turn around-- parasites are are smart, and know this.
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This is a reply to # 909,190Hi:
" parasites should stay near the food source, but Im not sure if that's really true. I got migration during a parasite cleanse, but they do not go back to their place of origin (i.e gut)."
To answer this, YOU ARE THE FOOD SOURCE! If parasites aren't "eating food" you become their source of food. This is the nature of parasitic life.
In order to survive, they must have a "source" to live off of. Therefore, when they migrate outside the gut there are plenty of "food sources" for them to feed off -- blood, tissues, muscles, etc. this is what makes them so insidious!
Hope that helps.
Best of Health,
DD
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This is a reply to # 909,179Remember, there are hormonal factors to be taken into consideration. Hormones carry signals which start the whole process. parasites sometimes develope receptor sites for hormones, AND can secrete host-like hormones. This can misdirect anti-body production, and also stop it in it's tracks. Shroom
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How about that, shows how little I know about things.
But it would completetly make sense! This is horrible!
But when the tests will come back "normal" everybody will think that Im healthy and that it is all in my head.
Great.
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This is a reply to # 909,759This is a big problem for many people esp. with lyme or morgellions. Shroom
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they have to go! Period. Too many of us (no names) have spent money and health and time on eliminating co-infections (i.e worms) with extremely poor results.
"lyme - a look behind Antibiotics " protocol?
= It feels like a wake up call
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