Thanks for the additional information... perhaps it will cause people to pause and think a little more.
The following I suspect could cause confusion with some on IP6.
This from an IP6 website referenced in another forum...
Foods high in calcium that support the growth of acidophilus
Group 1 (very high in calcium) are: collard greens, dandelion greens, parsley, beet greens, kale, spinach, mustard greens, turnip greens, watercress, endive and lambsquarters. (Also milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream). While not necessarily high in calcium, foods high in FOS support both acidophilus and bifido bacteria growth (onions, garlic, artichokes and asparagus).
Group 2 (high in calcium) are: canned salmon, sardines, perch and most kinds of fish, kelp and seaweed, spirulina, blackstrap molasses.
Group 3. (moderately high in calcium) are: Tofu, carrots, squash, pumpkin, buckwheat, cabbage. Wheatgrass, kamut, barley and rye grass powder are good supplements - contain calcium and most of the minerals found in nature.
All three groups are excellent choices. Choose one or more servings from each group daily. For phytic acid (IP6) from natural sources, use whole grains only, brown rice, whole kernel corn, rye crisp. Do not buy a bread with less than 4 grams of fiber per slice.
http://www.lloydwright.org/2005/Hepatitis-C/articles/Dangers_of_Iron_to_Patie...
It also says on the same site;
"DO NOT USE ANY OTHER DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS WITH IP6." The website used the caps, not me.
I wonder if it is because isolated supplements and IP6 cancel each other out? That is what is implied. Maybe some like to throw money away.
Interesting to me that suggested foods are EXTREMELY mineral rich when of high quality; Group 2 has both seaweed and BSM... why would who wrote this article (apparently after reading/studying the book "The Iron Time bomb") recommend a high iron food while taking IP6?
It certainly implies that the minerals found in the foods are okay and absorbed while taking IP6 either before or after meals on an empty stomach.
Further investigation revealed that calcium (supplements) can inhibit iron (supplement) absorption. hmmmm, but this action is very different when in a food based form; if the body needs the iron and/or calcium it will take one, the other or both... if not it won't take what it does not need as it is already bound.
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A list of iron rich foods...
List of Grains Rich in Iron: Iron (mg.)
Brown rice, 1 cup cooked 0.8
Whole wheat bread, 1 slice 0.9
Wheat germ, 2 tablespoons 1.1
English Muffin, 1 plain 1.4
Oatmeal, 1 cup cooked 1.6
Total cereal, 1 ounce 18.0
Cream of Wheat, 1 cup 10.0
Pita, whole wheat, 1 slice/piece, 6 ½ inch 1.9
Spaghetti, enriched, 1 cup, cooked 2.0
Raisin bran cereal, 1 cup 6.3
List of Iron Rich Legumes, Seeds, and Soy:
Sunflower seeds, 1 ounce 1.4
Soy milk, 1 cup 1.4
Kidney beans, ½ cup canned 1.6
Chickpeas, ½ cup, canned 1.6
Tofu, firm, ½ cup 1.8
Soy burger, 1 average 1.8 to 3.9*
List of Vegetables Rich in Iron:
Broccoli, ½ cup, boiled 0.7
Green beans, ½ cup, boiled 0.8
Lima beans, baby, frozen, ½ cup, boiled 1.8
Beets, 1 cup 1.8
Peas, ½ cup frozen, boiled 1.3
Potato, fresh baked, cooked w/skin on 4.0
Vegetables, green leafy, ½ cup 2.0
Watermelon, 6 inch x ½ inch slice 3.0
A Sample List of Foods Rich in Iron:
Blackstrap Molasses, one tablespoon 3.0
Dates or Prunes, ½ cup 2.4
Beef, Pork, Lamb, three ounces 2.3 to 3.0
Liver (beef, chicken), three ounces 8.0 to 25.0
Clams, Oysters ¾ cup 3.0
Dark meat Turkey ¾ cup 2.6
Pizza, cheese or pepperoni, ½ of 10 inch pie 4.5 to 5.5
http://www.bloodbook.com/iron-foods.html
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