What's with the knee discomfort? 
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Just as an update, I'm still going great guns with the new supplementation list and the Iodoral, but I have a question: is there any significance to severe knee discomfort and lower back pain? It's pretty much gone, now, but I was just curious.
Thanks!- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? UserX
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MoreThis is a reply to # 900,612My knees have been troubling me also, almost continuously since I started taking the Lugols, but I have a genetic predisposition to arthritic knee conditions, so I might be having this trouble anyway. I persist with the protocol having faith that detoxificion of my body will give my immune system a chance to eliminate future joint problems.
Enzymes and joint factors eliminate the knee pain for me. Excercise is also helpful.
- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? hanna
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Hulda Clark Cleanses
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As far as I remember the left knee has to do with the kidneys, but since I had sometimes an ache in my right knee noone has ever come up with an answer.
I have MH's kidney supplement I sometimes use it a few days in a row.
Lower backpain might have been related to the kidneys.- Pain in knees, legs, hips, even limp... citingsources
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This is a reply to # 900,631Scroll way down to WHAT TO EXPECT:
http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodine
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- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? hanna
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- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? San2006 17 y 11,365
- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? grzbear
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This is a reply to # 900,612The knee pain issue has come up before with Iodine supplementation.
I also had increased knee pain and still do if I overdo the Lugol's... in the left knee. I back off, it goes away.
Kidney sensitivity has also been noted. Olree states that Iodine has an influence on the urinary bladder and is necessary for the essential amino acid glutamine; also apparently prominent in the gastrointestinal tract. Could be all connected.- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? hanna
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This is a reply to # 900,670Yes all these connections are interesting, especially when I read the discharge from my right eye corner was because that is the meredian connection to the bladder.
The discharge is now gone. - Re: What's with the knee discomfort? Newport
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This is a reply to # 900,670From SCIO tests the weak knee issue coincides with heavy Lead or Mercury in blood. Chelaters help but copious Selenium will do the job, also SeME can be taken in much larger dosages than Selenium from yeast or Elemental.
Once the Iodine has shook loose the metals the Selenium seems to bind them nicely bypassing the kidney.
The knee reactivity appears to be due to the kidneys inability to process these metals without help.
BTW: Ankle issues appear to come indirectly from weak knee problems, the body attempts to use the ankles more to compensate for the weak knee.
Your mileage may vary...
- Newport/ Thanks for the answer to th... hanna
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- Re: Newport Newport
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This is a reply to # 900,688Yes, Selenomethionine is SeMe and you cannot overdose with it which makes it great for issues like that.
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- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? grzbear
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Hulda Clark Cleanses
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I do not experience weak knee... but increased knee discomfort. You went on to state though, "that knee reactivity appears to be due to the kidneys inability to process these metals without help."
Interesting. Care to expand?
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- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? Newport
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This is a reply to # 900,690Nothing to expand, the SCIO showed either Mercury or Lead in the blood and in the case of lead in the urine during the times of weak knee issues. These are known irritants to kidneys and are liberated from tissue by the use of iodine.
Upping Se appeared to work the same as adding expensive DMSA and I only had Se from yeast. I had 12 DMSA left and after I ran out upped my Se intake to 800mcg for a few days until the symptoms went away and that appeared to work better than the DMSA...
- very good, thank you N/M grzbear
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- Re: very good, thank you N/M trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 900,702you both rock on your own. together, i am hard put for an intense enough adjective.
carry on
trapper out
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- Selenium... San2006
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wow . 800 mcg of Selenium. I have read that Se can effectively fight off the detox symptoms of Iodine. perhaps when I restart my Iodine, I will consider upping my Se,
So Selenium Methionine is the right kind? Whats the diff between Se Me and Se from yeast. why is Se Me considered better than Se Yeast...
thanks.
- Re: Selenium... Newport
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This is a reply to # 900,709Elemental Se has a limit of 400-600mcg a day. When they make Se from Yeast at least some of it is converted into SeMe which has no limit. If we assume that only 50% has been converted wtih a 800mcg dosage will get us 400mcg of Elemental and 400mcg of SeMe which is still in the allowable limit.
If you buy SeMe (not cheap) then there is no practical limit.
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- very good, thank you N/M grzbear
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- thank you ALL #68716
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Hulda Clark Cleanses
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Thank you, everyone, for your input. Indeed, I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and, at first, the discomfort was a bit alarming, but it's leveled off and is dissipating, now. The Seasalt water flushes help a great deal and I also get my selenium from Brazil Nuts - a couple every day in the AM when I'm doing the massive supplementation.
BUT - this time around, it's quite manageable and I haven't had any thoracic discomfort/pain, yet. I'm not increasing my dosage until I feel I'm managing the roooomatizz and thyroid issues, first. Once I'm comfortable with those issues, I'll probably up the dosage - we'll see.
Again, thanks for all of the excellent input and links!!!- Brazil nuts (do you get enough selen... hanna 17 y 11,373
- Newport/ Thanks for the answer to th... hanna
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- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? konfetti_bomber
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This is a reply to # 900,670It is always my left knee, too, when it happens and what has helped me when upping the dose is slapping the detox footpads on at night whenever I experience this. The weird thing is what is coming out in the pads, now, very different from what was before supplementing with iodine. There will be these hard, white patches in the same place on the pads surrounded by a darker color (probably the kidney area of the foot, I should check this next time) and usually it lasts for a couple of nights then it is gone - the pads just resume a continuous darker color from the other toxins it yanks out. I think I get buildup in the kidneys every once in awhile and this sure helps to clear it out without having to take handfuls of supplements, which I hate.
- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? kunalparikh
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This is a reply to # 900,670tendinitis: pain in the front of the knee that is made worse when climbing, taking stairs, or walking up an incline. bursitis: inflammation caused by repeated overuse or injury of the knee. chondromalacia patella: damaged cartilage under the kneecap. gout: arthritis caused by the buildup of uric acid. Looking for the best joint replacement surgeon in Mumbai for shoulder/knee related complications? Then you are at the right place, Dr. Amyn Rajanil is a renowned orthopaedic specialist in India who provides his dedicated services in total shoulder/knee replacement surgeries.Advertisement
Hulda Clark Cleanses
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- Re: What's with the knee discomfort? hanna
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- Thank you so much for bringing this ... LNdolls
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This is a reply to # 900,612I have gained such clarity. I have had injuries to both knees from karate and other sports - they are not strong.
As a youngster I got lots of fillings... I developed what my dad called weak ankles. I had alway been athletic, doing cartwheels and running everywhere.. I began to turn my ankles... sprains, strains, X-rays, wraps, ice, pain - over and over and over again... UGH! This continued into my twenties and thirties, when I took a long break from dentists - had no problems, and kept my teeth clean, so why go!
This past year I had a bunch of dental work done.. most of it involved crowning and recapping my upper front teeth that had originally been root canaled and capped after an ice skating accident in my early twenties - not from weak ankles. I had landed on my teeth! Yeah, ouch.
This past week I turned my ankle for the first time in ages, fell onto the sidewalk, straining the other ankle in an attempt to save myself. Everything healed amazingly fast!
And now, I know why it happened.. all this lovely Iodine has loosened the latent mercury and lead hanging about in my body and my body is trying to get rid of it.. it needs more selenium. I have been taking the yeast form. I am going to go get some of the L-selenomethionine today. And I can share this with my sisters who have mercury fillings and turn their ankles!
Wow, the usefulness of the info shared here blows my mind each and every day.- Absolutely amazing, important to sha... hanna 17 y 11,205
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During Dr. Peter Spencer's response to questions concerning Gulf War syndrome's linkage to bromism, he stated, "It is noteworthy, I think, that when Europeans go to fight in the desert, Europeans tend to swallow salt tablets every day and Americans don't seem to do this. One wonders whether that might be a factor."
Citingsources pointed out what to expect concern pains and other side effects from taking iodine in the link http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodine
http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html
Some members of the Amazon discussion group have found the Salt Loading Protocol devised by Dr. William Shevin (and presented at the February '07 Iodine Conference) to be effective in eliminating the side effects such as bromide sedation, acne, brain fog, brassy taste, mouth sores, frontal headache or other symptoms which occur in a small percentage of patients.- Re: Bromism: contamination in war an... #68716
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Hulda Clark Cleanses
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Thanks, Imalurnin!!! This reiterates the necessity of the Seasalt water flushes. In fact, with the new list of supplements, I've had a minimal experience of "detox." When I see the ND later this week, I'm going to write down what he says about the symptoms, Iodine therapy, and my specific condition(s). I'll post them for anyone else that might be interested or has the same fear that I did about the symptoms.
Thanks to everyone who has put in so much time and effort to support and educate.
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