HCl production for Digestive system 
Corinthian
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And "Belief" and "Fact" may be two Different things !
I keep saying that but in the ML universe facts do not matter.
HCL, what does it stand for ?In chemistry it does not stand for hydrogen chloride, what he is looking for is HCl
CL= Chloride !
Wrong. Cl (little “l”), and it represents Chlorine not Chloride
HCL= Hydrochloric Acid !Wrong, HCl is hydrogen chloride, H+Cl-(aq) is is hydrochloric acid
HCL is "NOT" made with Calcium or Magnesium or Sodium or Potassium or even Iodine as someone has so Grandly Proclaimed it to be !Wrong again. Without Potassium the parietal cells could not produce HCl. It happens like this. Parietal cells use a membrane protein called K+/H+ ATPase to exchange K+ for H+ (really H3O+), it swaps potassium ions outside the cell for hydrogen ions inside the cell. While this is happening, by way of chloride channels, Cl is leaking out as it is exchanged for bicarbonate ions, the net result is that a H+ , Cl- go into the stomach. An animation of this process can be seen here.
Surely it could not be so Simple, could it ?Well its not. Read the simplified explanation above, check the links or read a book on the subject. It is not simple at all.
So, the body may be able to produce HCL when it has the needed ingredients of Hydrogen and Chloride !Wrong, meaningless and tautologous. First the body needs more than H, and Cl, it also needs K and ATP.
Another meaningless statement that seems to contain wisdom. “We may be able to produce steel when we have the needed ingredients” , “We may be able to make apple pies if we have the needed ingredients” Really can anything be made without the “needed ingredients” by definition they are needed, if we could do without they would not be needed.
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A couple of questions come to mind.....
I had no idea that chlorine was involved in digestion. Would I be right in assuming that the notion of Iodine aiding digestion has some validity then...does Iodine function in the same fashion...or act as a replacement for chlorine.
Recently I have been researching Niacin and found that many conclude it aids digestion by some as yet unknown mechanism. Could it be simply stress reduction.....perhaps causing more circulation within the digestive system....effectively raising the interactions of the elements necessary for digestion. As an acid, the dosage necessary for me to get a mild burning is about 10% of what HCL would take. Perhaps there is some other mechanism of action going on..........- Re: HCl production for Digestive sys... digitalman
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This is a reply to # 881,979According to Dr Flechas, high levels of Iodine are concentrated in the stomach lining and is used by the parietal cells to concentrate chloride ions, a component in stomach acid.
Niacin is great in aiding digestion if there's lack of stomach acid. Two likely mechanisms in which niacin is used for stomach acid production - first it releases histamine (causing skin flushing) and histamine is required to trigger stomach acid production. The other mechanism is that niacin is required in energy production inside the mitochondria (niacin is precursor to NADH) - the production of energy as ATP is required in the K+/H+ exchange in the parietal cells (for this reason stomach lining has the highest level of mitochondria activity).
A deficiency in niacin is typically present in hypochlorhydria/protein maldigestion (aka Aminoacid deficiency). Large amounts of the aminoacid tryptophan (found in protein rich sources) are needed for niacin production. Parallel to this, serotonin production also requires tryptophan. A deficiency in niacin and tryptophan is likely present in symptoms of Depression and anxiety as serotonin production is compromised. For this reason, niacin typically has a calming effect as more tryptophan is available for production of serotonin (the feel good component).
Mike
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This is a reply to # 882,016Thanks Digitalman.....that explains a lot. I just started playing with the non flushing niacin and it is doing wonders for me......now I know why. One day I must add the iodine....all in good time.
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- His edit is also wrong Corinthian
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This is a reply to # 881,912Chlorine is a Gas, but chloride is "NOT" a Gas, so HCL has chloride as it's element, for "HCL" is Hydrochloric Acid
Wrong. HCl has chlorine as its element, not chloride. Chlorides are found in solid, liquid or gaseus phases so he is wrong when he writes that chloride is not a gas.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm ? Did I fool someone again ? End of Edit .
Aside from fooling yourself, I hope no one else has been fooled by your junk post..
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This is a reply to # 881,912you missed your calling as a secondary school teacher. i love the refreshers and seeing the stuff i was asleep in class when they were talked about. i hope your postings give you satisfaction because i know they do me. here, this is for you:
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