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Re: Botox on MC? Zoebess
17 y
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This is a reply to # 850,490While MCing, try using one of these two oils on
your skin and perhaps you will like the results
well enough you may have found a reason to forget
using a product which is much less beneficial...
I like to use either pure virgin coconut oil,
or a few drops of emu oil, and at night before
bed I mix either of these oils with a drop of
lavender oil and soothe it all over my face and
hands. My skin feels so soft and looks so healthy.
I am over 50 and embrace the freedom of aging
gracefully.
Best wishes,
Zoe
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- almond oil & emu oil makes the skin ... raa 17 y 8,183
- Re: Botox on MC? #14938
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This is a reply to # 850,589Thanks for the excellent suggestion (and the lack of vitriol) , Zoe! I really appreciate it.... and will try it out!
- Inspiring post #48688
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I must say - Detour -
" INSPIRING POST "
When it comes to our body health we always need to be heading in the right direction.
Its very easy in this society to let things "slip" and then get off track.
Your post is a reminder of the right direction.
We also know that the right direction does not require a shot in the face!
- Re: Inspiring post purplepossom
17 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 850,495A warm, loving and vibrant person will always be beautiful to those around them, regardless of how they appear on the outside. Those who choose to judge others on physical appearances are hardly worth having as friends.
I'm only 22 but have always taken good care of my skin (staying out of the sun, moisturising etc...) but I look forward to growing older, seeing myself develop as a person in the way nature intended.
I'd rather age with lines on my face from all the smiling I do, than have an artifically line-free face at 70, advertising the fact that I was sucked into the vanity induced society of cosmetic surgery and the need for physical perfection.
"The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw"
All the best in your life choices :)
- Re: Inspiring post purplepossom
17 y
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I let you all in on a little secret...
I noticed a little bit of wrinkling starting to happen (due to stress and making stressed expressions) just above my eyebrows. I'm 43 years old and otherwise only look about 30 - 35 (so I'm told). I thought "Oh no! I'm starting to look old!" I was really obsessed about it for about a month.
You see, it's funny how influenced I can be by other people. My sister told me about a year prior to that - that I should grow my bangs out. She said I had a pretty hairline and I didn't need bangs. So, I'd been growing my hair out for a while. The bangs had almost gotten down to my chin. I guess that's why I started noticing my wrinkle. So, I started checking into getting botox - about 6 months ago. The good thing about all of this is that I was regularly looking at posts on curezone and was trying to get healthier. I can understand your reluctant feelings about getting botox. That's why you posted the question. If you've been hanging around here for a while - it makes you a bit more conscious of how you treat your body and how it all effects your health in so many ways. That's how I felt. It took a lot of courage to even post your question about botox. I think it's great that you asked.
I didn't get botox. With what I now know about how much control I really do have over my health or lack of health - I couldn't do it. Once you're aware of this, it's really difficult to make choices that are not for the best. I quit smoking almost a year ago. I just couldn't keep smoking and at the same time say "I'm doing healthy things for my body!" So instead of getting botox - I cut my bangs again - (I've been a licensed master cosmetologist for over 20 years). I don't even notice my wrinkle anymore, and I got several compliments on the bangs.
As far as the cancer/chemo comment goes - I just don't think you thought that out really well before you said it. Cancer is a really bad thing - but cancer doctors often tell patients that they must have chemo or they will die. There are several documented cases of people (even physicians) who have successfully CURED THEMSELVES of heart disease, cancer and other terminal diseases without the traditional medical treatments and instead by making dietary and lifestyle changes. If you're curious about this you can go to www.ravediet.com There is also a 6 minute video clip of a DVD called Eating http://www.ravediet.com/preview.htm
I am not selling anything, nor am I affiliated with anyone at this site. It's just the eating plan that I am doing. It is Vegan - a totally plant based diet. It's also the easiest thing I've ever done to eat healthy. It's so nice to not have to limit portions and I still am loosing inches (I don't weigh myself).
Hopefully you'll find an alternative to botox, like I did. A good hairstylist can fix this problem for you!
Roberta
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- Re: Botox on MC? detour
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This is a reply to # 850,956"A warm, loving and vibrant person will always be beautiful to those around them, regardless of how they appear on the outside..."
Hyperhydrosis is mearly a sign that your body is out of order. It is curable.
The medical community ,as a whole, generally treats, and doesn't address the cause
of an issue,usually creating another issue(s).
That is why we as Americans have, for the most part, been brainwashed to the point that natural alternatives are terrifying and the last option. Not too much money in leaves , oils and a positive spirit,compared to the billions in pharm.
I have in the last 10 years grown younger in appearance. My wrinkles come and go depending on my diet, attitude and overall lifestyle. This is not a goal , it is a benefit and result. I'm a firm believer that things don't happen for a reason, they happen as a reslult.
My grey hairs ,as I mentioned previously, are actually diminishing not increasing
(unless they are just falling out,hah). But I don't worry about it either way.
The face is the mirror to the soul and a gauge to the efficiency of the body funtions and organs.
The skin is the largest organ of the body, and when internal organs are overtaxed the skin takes the punishment. Can you say 'Liver Cleanse'? Great start. The Master-Cleanse is a great idea ,too...it may give you fantastic insight-
I truly feel that if one evaluates, with honesty, their lifestyle it will be easy to judge and see the areas needing improvement. In fact I am sure of it.
I understand the fashion industry's 'standard of appearance' and the extremes that are too often imposed... just remember, they are inevitably 'self imposed'.
Self impositions should be self governed, not by outside forces to the point of mutation. Wrinkles and the like are not mutations , yet a natural occurance resulting from the lifestyle one leads...it's all about choices, and yes, cosmetics are a choice-there for a reason , though what's the result in the game of appearance?
short term 7/long term 0, seven to nothing is a skunk.
Just look at some of the botches in the fashion and 'star' world .
Alternative health is not a quick fix...it is a way of life. How do you want to look and feel in 20 years? One can say that life can be taken away tomorrow so why bother... I ,myself, choose to live the best I can at this moment. If I'm graced with a long life , so beit=if not, I lived life the best I could.
I'm glad I have chosen to make my life a mission of wise and healthy choices.
Some wrong along the way, yet success ,to me, means not being afraid to fail after your last failure. We are only human. I am only here so that maybe just one person can benefit from my successes, while at the same time giving back in honor of those that have helped and cared about me & others.
Detour
- Re: Botox on MC? purplepossom
17 y
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This is a reply to # 851,016Something I found on the topic which is frightening to say the least!
Presently, the final option for hyperhydrosis is that of botox injections. The term “botox” comes from a group of related toxins produced by Clostridium botulinum. Clostridium botulinum is a certain bacteria. Botox is so dangerous that United Nations “inspectors have been searching for hidden stockpiles of this chemical inside Iraq,”
I hope you manage to control this condition in a less harmful way
All the best :) - Re: Botox on MC? #14938
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This is a reply to # 851,016Thanks for the insightful reply, Detour--and for one lacking in castigation and reproach.
- Re: Botox on MC? detour
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This is a reply to # 851,161Da nada...
I must say that when I first moved to Hawaii I needed a body squeegie..
After my first few MCs I notice a considerable drop.
After my 45 dayer It has pretty much subsided..I really upped my
cayenne...Now I eat 'Thai Hot' Thai food . My system seems to be
running much more efficiently. I attribute that much to the MC
protocol and a really healthy diet.
Botox may be a last option according to 'medical science',yet there is
a cause that is virtually unaddressed or defined as mysterious.
I really think it is a simple matter of inbalance...
http://www.mohrdar.com
may have advice...tell Arash David in HI sent you.
He has helped those diagnosed as terminal in many cases. He went
through med school and totally abandoned western medicine philosophy.
Just a thought...
aloha..
D
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- Re: Botox on MC? #14938
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This is a reply to # 851,191Thanks, D! I will definitely check it out....
And body squeegie? What does that mean??
- Re: Botox on MC? #14938
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- Re: Botox on MC? detour
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- Re: Botox on MC? purplepossom
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- Re: Botox on MC? #14938
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This is a reply to # 850,956As I said to Zoe, thank you, Roberta, for the suggestion and for the complete lack of vitriol. I really appreciate it. It's nice to have a response that isn't a complete lashing.
Bless!- 14938 - Are you having fun on the MC... #48688
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This is a reply to # 851,158Vitriol, castigation, reproach.
Don't know --- ?? - but does sounds like fun.- Re: 14938 - Are you having fun on th... #14938
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This is a reply to # 851,218I'm not sure what you infer by that--I asked an innocent question, one that I thought would, at worst, be completely ignored entirely and, at best, receive one or two responses. It was not my intention nor my desire to start a multi-day discussion or to raise a flammable topic. I am here for the same reasons as everyone else is, I imagine--not for "fun," but to try and better my health and have a successful cleanse via the MC.
- Re: 14938 - Are you having fun on th... #48688
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This is a reply to # 851,902Quote -
"I am here for the same reasons as everyone else is, I imagine--not for "fun," but to try and better my health and have a successful cleanse via the MC."
- Sounds like fun to me!
The word "fun", was used in a good way. Fun - meaning, things are happening, life is good.
Your post created/generated lots of interest, as you can see.
It stirred minds, brought up new viewpoints, got people thinking about lots of good things.
I do hope you have a very good cleanse. You've come to a good place for guidance regarding it and I believe that all the responses on this thread have had your best interest in mind. Including my own.- Re: 14938 - Are you having fun on th... #14938
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This is a reply to # 851,916Sorry if I misread into your message--I am feeling a bit defensive/sensitive on this thread, as you can see. I thought you were being facetious :-)
Thanks for your good wishes, and the same to you!
- Re: 14938 - Are you having fun on th... #14938
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- Re: 14938 - Are you having fun on th... r0berta
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This is a reply to # 851,902
I, for one, hope you do have fun and enjoy it to the fullest. As I said before, your question was a good one. I thought the discussion was just that - a discussion. Please don't take others comments as mean. It was all out of concern - I'm sure of that. It's really easy to take things in a negative way. Everyone has their own way of communicating. We all also hear things differently. There have been throughout our forum history - a few people who have gotten offended here and there. The ones who stuck around and got to know people better realized about everyones communication differences.
I'm sorry you didn't feel well about this thread. I hope you'll stick around. You'll see that everyone around here are just like brothers and sisters. Hopefully you will feel more welcome soon.
I think of all of the vanity proceedures out there - the one most here would approve of is...
Liposuction!
Liposuction releases toxins you know!
So, how do all of you feel about Liposuction?
Roberta
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- Lipo: for Roberta raa
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This is a reply to # 851,921I was actually considering liposculpture on my waist and my "granny arms". Liposculpture is a bit different than orthodox liposuction. the doctor that I talked to told me that with liposculpture he uses a smaller suction tool and the scars will be less noticable. Not only that but with liposculpture he uses local anesthesia along with low powered suction so you will be awake the whole time. He told me that the reasons other doctors use general anesthesia is because they usually use the tool violently with high powered suction in order to get the job done as quickly as possible resulting in bruising, after pain, and sometimes punctured organs.
I can honestly say that liposculpture is a procedure that I have thouroghly researched and have deeply considered. Now whether I will be brave enough to do it, time will tell. - Re: 14938 - Are you having fun on th... #14938
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This is a reply to # 851,921Naw, I'm not going anywhere! As I posted below, I realize that tone is often read differently than intended when it is written, and while I may have gotten a bit defensive/sensitive, it's all good! I know people are just writing out of concern, experience, and what not. Honestly, I'm just amazed that my silly question sparked such a lengthy thread--I'd be almost proud if I didn't feel like such a moron :-)
- Lipo: for Roberta raa
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- Re: 14938 - Are you having fun on th... #48688
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- Re: Botox on MC? #77946
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This is a reply to # 851,158
Hats off to you #14938! I have been watching this thread all day and can't believe some of the sanctimonious
responses this seemingly (albeit a little naiive you must admit) innocent question has brought about. I think you handled the barrage with grace... I thought this was supposed to be a "support" forum. Good luck to you.- Highlighting the risks IS support... purplepossom
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I feel it is supportive to be told of the potential risks involved with someone considering such a procedure. If I was in the same situation, I'd rather be given the facts than duped into believing it was a risk free operation and ending up with complications and negative affects to my health as a result, purely because people felt they had to 'support' my choice and avoid upsetting me by saying otherwise.
Just my thoughts anyway :) - Support? r0berta
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This is a reply to # 851,272
This forum is set up in support of the Master Cleanse. When someone brings somethng up which has potential to do great harm or hinder the purpose of the Master Cleanse, there's no reason that comments should not be allowed. None of this discussion was counter-productive of the Master Cleanse. To the contrary, the comments posted are supportive of the Master Cleanse and maintaining the benefits acheived through the proper use of it.
The original poster asked for the opinions of others about this, because she was apparently having some ambivalent feelings about the effect of this procedure. I believe that this has been a quite productive discussion. Thanks for initiating it...
Roberta
- Re: Botox on MC? #48688
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This is a reply to # 851,272I have found all the posts on this thread to be "INFORMATIVE" in nature, and with "CONCERN".
Everybody who has responded has gotten as close to the "TRUTH" as possible.
I have seen no "vitriol", "castigation", "reproach" or "complete lashings".
The original poster should keep in mind that this forum is about "health", and that the truth about it is not always easy to swallow.- Support and vitriol #14938
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This is a reply to # 851,605I completely agree with Roberta that comments are not only welcome on the Master-Cleanse forum, but that comments are exactly why the Master-Cleanse forum exists--and is in fact why I originally posted. And I do appreciate the folks who have taken the time to respond.
That said, I personally find a big, big *big* difference from the responses that included things like "Why are you even CONSIDERING doing the MC" (which I got at least three times!) or "insanity" or "sounds like you're already done" or anything in ALL CAPS (the written equivalent to yelling) to be less than supportive and more along the lines of passing judgement or veering on the line of self-righteous. Supportive responses, in my opinion, include those that suggested alternatives such as websites and links for diets, alternatives, and books, recommended facial oils or haircuts, and otherwise inspirational ways of approaching the topic. I am the first to admit that anything sent via email/blog/forum is often read with a tone not intended by the writer, and after several of what I personally might deem less supportive messages, I admittedly may have read into them some virtiol/judgement that was not intended. I am not immune to being sensitive when feeling under fire.
I appreciate everyone's input, and just think people should remember that there is a way to respond to posts on this forum without making the original poster (or posters thereafter) feel stupid or like they aren't "worthy" of undertaking the same quest everyonelse is here for.
Cheers!
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- Support and vitriol #14938
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- Highlighting the risks IS support... purplepossom
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- Re: Botox on MC? r0berta
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This is a reply to # 851,158
You're welcome. I think this has been a pretty cool discussion. It made me think about a lot of things, so thanks for bringing it up.
Roberta
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