Four years of taking Lugol's drops /... 
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A friend who has taken Lugol's drop's liberally for four years just got back her Iodine Loading Test. We expected her saturation to be in the normal range (90%).
But it was a shocking 34%!!
Because others in our circle had low readings on Lugol's which jumped up on Iodoral, she will be switching to Iodoral immediately.
She is disappointed at the false sense of confidence she had for so long.
If she hadn't taken the Iodine Loading Test she would never have known her body was not getting enough. Her health was worth the investment of $82.
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- Re: Four years of taking Lugol's dro... Ohfor07
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4 years seems a significant time based on the literature & research this forum goes by. Do you know what else your friend has or hasn't been supplementing with these 4 years? And I don't necessarily mean this in just the conventional sense, but have they been supplementing (or perhaps "eating/drinking" is a better term) a steady supply of unfriendly halogens - breads and or bread stuffs, products containing BVOs, fluouridated water and or meds... and the like? Have they been routinely taking in Vitamin C in any form natural or otherwise? It sticks in my mind that even a conservative routine will have upwards to 90% of people saturated within 3 years or so.... perhaps your friend is among the 10%, and possibly worse, perhaps they are among the 10% and otherwise are not aware of this...?
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- Re: Four years of taking Lugol's dro... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 846,615after doing some extensive reading, I have concluded that for some with chronic illness, they have lost the ability to absorb and/or utilize various minerals, including lugols. it can be very tricky to deal with. there are branches of homeopathy, where through the use of the proper remedy, the body's ability to recognize and utilize minerals can be restored. unfortuneatly, this is not something that is well known at all. this cached link contains hints of the issues to which i refer. but, to really understand it, you have to understand homeopathy as well as deficiency issues:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:_aetRdSpYPwJ:www.theprover.com/article.php4%3Fid%3D147+miasm+deficiency+psora+iodine&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
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it sticks in my mind that absorption problem was among the main reasons cited by Abraham, (or Brownstein) through their research that showed roughly 10% of people will not have the same good results with Iodine supplementtion as the other 90%. I remember the typical examples given for this 10% was (and I paraphrase) " people with diabetes, particularly what is called Type II but often portrayed as 'age-related', as well as people who may unknowingly be long-term hypo AND OR hyper thyroid sufferrs, as well as those who have already been suffering for a while from a long term illness/disease/condition", and as a general catchall to this list of reasons, the advice was basically, the older a person is, the more likely they may have developed a condition[s] that puts them into this 10% category.
Type II is the one that sticks in my mind the best because that too is a "receptor site" problem whereby the body loses it's ability to sense that it has sufficient sugar/insulin floating through it. In this instance, how does orthodoxy approach this situation?; flood the body with more insulin. The same basic dynamic seems to be in play for a good number of people (don't know if it's the same 10% or different figure) having Iodine receptor sites that have become defective from long-term infestation of other halides. In a very real way, Orthoiodine Supplementation seems to in part involve a degree of flooding the body with Iodine, but contrary to the Insulin path, there appears to be a light at the end of the Iodine tunnel; eventually reducing one's Iodine intake. Best I know, the average insulin taker, once they are put on it, generally have a future of perpetually increased dosing (flooding), as if these partiular receptors are continually becoming less and less sensitive. Meanwhile, the Iodine theory seems to be, it's receptors stand a good chance of continually become more (normally) sensitive to Iodine.
- Re: Four years of taking Lugol's dro... citingsources
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This is a reply to # 846,630Thank you for your replies.
I know this person to eat an exemplary diet, no fluoride, no drugs, no wheat products, no diabetes or other mentioned diseases. She did have a history of breast disease. For general health reasons, before learning of Dr. Abraham, already took ample vitamin C, magnesium and selenium.
She is switching to Iodoral immediately, starting with 50 mg and will work up to 100 mg. She will retest in 3 months. She appears to be like some others who cannot get an adequate loading test number on Lugol's. I wonder how low her Iodine levels had been before starting Lugol's for years ago.
She seems to have absorbed much of the Iodoral given to her in the loading test where you take 50 mg at the beginning of the test and then check how much is excreted over a 24 hour period. So, I think we can rule out a lack of absorption of Iodoral.
Dr. Abraham points out that the goal is to get your tissues so saturated that you excrete 90% of the Iodoral you are given the day of the test in a 24 hour period.
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What you say doesn't indicate whether the person took 3-4000 mg of Vitamin C daily...since that amount is considered to be a lot to the 'common variety' healthy persons, it's possible enough wasn't taken for proper absorbtion. (?) What do we know there?
Also, Iodoral is made from Lugol's. I've seen the Iodoral 'recipe' and there's absolutely nothing in it that would help absorbtion...nothing. The only thing Iodoral helps, is padding the pocket of those that created/trademarked it.
You say: >>>She appears to be like some others who cannot get an adequate loading test number on Lugol's<<<
I say: HUH? WHAT?? Where did you find valid research that indicates the human body absorbs Iodoral better than Lugol's (which is THE only iodine/iodide IN Iodoral)???
This is serious. If Iodoral does absorb better, then we ALL need to know!! If Iodoral does NOT absorb better, then one should STOP spreading disinformation that causes others to be mislead AND spend unnecessary money.
>>She seems to have absorbed much of the Iodoral given to her in the loading test where you take 50 mg at the beginning of the test and then check how much is excreted over a 24 hour period. So, I think we can rule out a lack of absorption of Iodoral.<<
I think, we can't rule out ANYTHING on the basis of one lab test.
It's always a shame to see people falling prey to "hype" rather than the truth :( Especially when just a LITTLE bit of research on their own would have revealed the truth.
The decision to switch to Iodoral has been made based on ONE lab test??? It's always a mistake to 'switch drugs' based on the results of one lab test. The deaths of over 100,000 people yearly are the results of medical error (that doesn't even scratch the surface when considering the amount of people that were "affected" by medical error). A very high percentage of error in labwork is something we can depend upon. To make a decision based on the results of ONE lab test is really not-so-smart.
I mean no disrespect at all here...but I do think it's important to state the truth amidst all these "assumptions". One could easily take ANY product for years and have one test show "low"; I've seen/heard of hundreds of examples of that kind of thing over the years (and that doesn't even count the things that are even LESS precise, like hair/fingernail analysis, etc.) I really am interested in learning why this person's one test showed low...but there's a HUGE variety of factors that could influence the test, and without knowing those, there's no way to come to any logical conclusion at all.
Blessings,
Uny
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This is a reply to # 846,615Sounds like an Iodoral commercial.
Do you work in the advertising agency ?
That last sentence was a clincher !- Re: Four years of taking Lugol's dro... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 846,721I agree, though I have other questions...
1. Was a loading test done before starting Lugol's and what was the result?
I believe a before and after would show a clearer picture...
2. Did she possibly have some condition that could have caused poor iodine\iodide body recognition and or assimilation?
3. The post states that "others" had low readings on the Lugol's and switched to iodoral, yet there are no loading test results one way or the other posted that would indicate a switch was in order. Why?
4. How do we know whether or not it takes certain cases longer to recognize and then utilize the iodine\iodide in any form? If this is true AND six months of iodoral use brings the loading test up, how do we know that Lugol's would not have done the same thing?
I could probably think of a few more questions, however if citingsources can answer these, along WITH some sort of documentation, we could go from there. Iodoral is supposedly nothing more than Lugol's in tablet form; the addition of binders and such. I would find it hard to believe that the tablet would work better than the liquid.- Re: Four years of taking Lugol's dro... #68716
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"Do you believe your mental function has increased since the iodine?"
Yes, I do.
I believe that all three points of your post have merit. I would go with 3. I think that if the body utilizes Iodine in many more functions than just thyroid hormone production alone, for instance, blood cleansing, then I would expect it to be used in varying amounts by different bodies due solely to individual need, based on size, health, and "recognized" assimilation\utilization... even after some point of normalization.
For example, when I start supplementing, I am ill and diseased, user #2 (same weight\height as I) is not. Assuming that we both need the same (which I would question) amount to begin with AND we both have the ability to absorb and utilize the iodine/iodide identically, my "need" could still be considerably greater than user #2.
Lifetime absorption would most likely be illustrated best by the peoples who average around 12mg a day in dietary intake and never seem to show signs of overdose, even after that lifetime of ingestion. I might add, that the dosing is most likely started soon after weening... but how much do the infants ingest through breast milk? That would be interesting to discover.- Re: Four years of taking Lugol's dro... #68716
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"Yes, I do."
On a separate, but related topic, if I ever request you to read one document with an analytical mind, it would be this one, which is the most concise and accurrate analysis I've ever seen, having first read it in 1993:
http://usa-the-republic.com/Lee%20Brobst/usa.html
- Re: Four years of taking Lugol's dro... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 846,773I will read it, however it has to wait... my plate is very full right now for a few weeks.
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- Re: Four years of taking Lugol's dro... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 846,773as a stranger and a sojourner in this world, i have no concern about this world system. america has just gone through a 100 year coup. when gw starts peeing on me and telling me its raining, i just change the channel.
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This is a reply to # 846,763the longer the dysfunction, the harder the fix. its not just iodine. all of us health veterans have proved that. lifestyle is still king. belief can overcome anything(good or bad).
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