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grooverg
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Hi, I recently ordered calcium hydroxide along with some of the other ingredients for the moreless protocol on the basis that everything I read on the ask moreless site seemed to make a lot of sense - it still does but having come across this site it looks like a lot of people are dead against using it. I would be grateful to anyone who has been using it on a longterm basis to post their observations both positive and negative. I am not a chemist and I realise that in its pure form it is dangerous to inhale or digest - but if only one tablespoon is used in a gallon of water - and then only maybe up to 20 tablespoons is then added to the drink, well then quite obviously it is being taken in a highly diluted form. If there were to be any negative effects from it, common sense would say that it would be the accumulative effect rather than taken once or twice - hence the question. BTW, I am an open minded, non medical person looking to heal a longterm digestive problem. This whole alkalising concept makes a lot of sense to me, however I have no interest in getting caught up in a protracted chemistry debate because first of all it would go way over my head and secondly I am purely interested in how sucessful CH is in raising the PH level without doing any long term damage to the body.
Cheers to all.
GrooverG- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... ParaZapper
17 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 821,017I have been doing mine differently with good success.
1 tsp Ca(OH)2 lime
1/2 tsp MgSO4 epsom salt
1/4 tsp morton lite (1/2 KCl, 1/2 NaCl)
1 gallon water
dilute 1 or 2 tsp per gallon of water
I use it for drinking and to make tea, etc. Alkalinity is up gradually and conditions are visibly improved.
It should be noted that vitamin D is very important for Calcium absorbtion. - Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... evanluck
17 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 821,017I have been taking calcium hydroxide as part of the moreless protocol for just over a year and I have been thriving on it.
I use quite a bit of the pickling lime water (made from 1 Tablspoon of Calcium Hydroxide diluted in 1 gallon of distilled water) when making the moreless akalyzing drink. Depending on how much lemon juice is used I have scaled up to 8-12 ounces of pickling lime water in a drink that I take between 3 and 4 times a day.
Again, no negative side effects. In fact quite the opposite, my overall level of health is better than it has been in over 10 years.
God Bless and Guide you on your way to better health,
Evan - Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... Invincible
17 y
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- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... grzbear
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,017Here is mine... I suppose I have been at this 6 months or more...
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=810167#i
- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... Celcius
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,366I haven been using the moreless drink with up to 2/3 cups of calcium hydroxide for over six months, with no adverse reactions!
My energy levels are higher then they have ever been and I need only six hours of sleep a night.
My aches and pains from working in the construction trades are minimal and I out work people half my age !
I, not to long ago did a huge floor tiling job and for the first time and years I did not need knee pads! I have tried many of the different protocal here at Curezone and nothing has helped near as much as the power drink !
Not any one ingredient in the drink is responsible for its success, it is, I beleive the genius of Moreless to combine these different ingredience in a fully bio absorbable form that is responsible for its healing powers!
Celcius
http://www.askmoreless.com/testimonials
- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... #68716
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This is a reply to # 821,390Six hours is a lot of sleep. I get by on 3-4. An old ancestor of mine, TAE, was known for getting by on 1-2 hours sleep per day, regularly. He was a productive worker.
- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... chardy
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,793Jeeez, 4 hours?!
I need about 6-7 to be as alert and productive as I like.
Sleep is nice though ;-)- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... trapper/kcmo
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- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... chardy
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,833I find its good for the brain to accept and condense complex concepts into the mind.
Whatever we think about sleep biologically, its shown that its important in order to absorb and retain information better.
- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... chardy
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- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... trapper/kcmo
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- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... chardy
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- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... #68716
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- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... Celcius
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- Comment, and one pitfall of alkalizi... #68716
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This is a reply to # 821,017The term "calcium hydroxide users" is misleading. The protocols described by the respondents all include kelp, as far as one can tell.
Keep in mind that over 80% of the US population is deficient in iodine. If you live in the US and are increasing your Iodine intake in the form of kelp, then you are satisfying a body deficiency known to manifest itself via a wide range of symptoms.
Ingesting kelp with an inert substance such as lime still causes bodily Iodine to increase. Don't let the smoke and mirrors obfuscate the true beneficial agent, which is iodine.
When supplemening with iodine, bromides stored in the body are released, which may cause symptoms of bromism. Additionally, Iodine is known to cause release of heavy metals cadmium and mercury from body tissues.
Supplementing with ordinary salt, sodium chloride, in an amount 6 -10 grams per day, increases bromide excretion by a factor of 10. However, when the individual has lead in their body, ingesting ammonium chloride instead of sodium chloride increases renal acidity, which in turn catalyzes lead excretion.
By striving to be "alkaline", when supplementing with iodine, people are in fact causing their bodies to retain stored lead. As most are aware, lead causes reduced intelligence, and compounds the effects of other heavy metal poisoning.
To each his own.
- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... Celcius
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,514Sorry professor,wrong again ! I seldom use kelp !Cant stand it! I prefer raw eggs occasionally and sardines! These and kelp have Iodine bound as to a protien the only way the thyroid can utilize it!
You are grasping at straws, the Moreless drink is the reason people are healing, along with the alkalizing baths! It doesnt take a genious with a multisyllabic tic to come to these conclusions!- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... #68716
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,645Well, since you like to eat raw eggs , then I'm sure you won't mind me telling you to GO MUNCH AN EGG.
- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... #68716
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- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... grzbear
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,514"Supplementing with ordinary salt, sodium chloride, in an amount 6 -10 grams per day, increases bromide excretion by a factor of 10. However, when the individual has lead in their body, ingesting ammonium chloride instead of sodium chloride increases renal acidity, which in turn catalyzes lead excretion.
By striving to be "alkaline", when supplementing with iodine, people are in fact causing their bodies to retain stored lead. As most are aware, lead causes reduced intelligence, and compounds the effects of other heavy metal poisoning."
Not sure I understood all of this... could you explain this and where your information comes from?- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... chardy
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,654Ok, so, what if we take the position that the drink can work in some cases to alleviate /ameliorate the problems that people have with their health?
If the use of BSM and ACV and cal hydroxide does cause the CH to become organically bound within the solution, wouldnt that remove some of our fears about people using it?
Im starting to think that attacking the 'man' is too ad hominem, no matter how fun it is to see Celcius turning people off the drink with his constant rudeness.
Ive been using the drink, using 1tb of pickling lime and adding a scoop of cal mag fizz (or mag citrate if I feel I need it) and it is helping me to feel better. There must be some truth in it...
Re: Iodine. I use organic butter and eggs liberally (raw eggs are a good protein imho) and made sure I had sea veggies / fish at least once a fortnight. I dont think the kelp is whats doing it for me...
Its hard to accept that someone that has caused such division and strife on these forums may have a valid idea, especially as their Science is often very questionable and their conveyance of their message is often harsh at best and downright rude and hurtful to some people at worst.
Take the idea and leave the man.- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... Celcius
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This is a reply to # 821,686If my defence of Moreless and my disgust at these personal attacks on him by this group is deemed rude so be it! I am not here to win any popularity contest or to try or to establish my authority! If those who have this personal vendetta could begin looking at the realities of the healing powers of these combined substances objectively instead of this tainted distorted view, we could all move on!
- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... chardy
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,701I agree that we should all try to be more objective!
But I think we've created a vicious circle, of attack and defence and a sort of 'fear of ideas'.
I mean, if everytime someone denigrates the ideas and the drink, you attack them and then in responce more people look for reasons to attack the ideas expressed and the contents of the drink, both sides LOOK for situations where there may be an argument.
Perhaps if we could JUST return to the ideas expressed, if someone disagrees with ML then do so by showing the logical fallacy and if this person is valid, we must accept the criticism.
Either way, it appears that despite the troubles here people are using the drink to restore health, I guess the essential problem will always be one of the divide between the 'natural' and the 'artificial' or the 'orgnaic' and the 'inorganic' some people will never want to use inorganic, some people will use it liberally.
It doesnt appear that we've ever really answered the question as to whether the drink changes the nature of the inorganic-ness (hehe) of the CH. Or even if the problem of calcification is related to artifical calcium, or rather a lack of EFAs or a lack of magnesium in balance to the calcium!
Maybe we could all agree for two weeks to keep personal attacks out of the forum and just look at the ideas and see how we get on?- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... Celcius
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,709I mean, if everytime someone denigrates the ideas and the drink, you attack them and then in responce more people look for reasons to attack the ideas expressed and the contents of the drink, both sides LOOK for situations where there may be an argument.````````````
Not true! That would be impossible as the attacks have been ongoing and too numerous to even read all of them! Besides it is easy to see those who are not just questioning the drink but also add personal insult as they do so! This is what I attack if you may call it that, I call it defending against attack!
These personal attacks by a small group of posters has gone on uncessently for months ! Threats by some of these same poster against Moreeless have even been made and I fond this unacceptable!
Yes I would like to put all this in the past and often think these attacks have stopped, but I am always disappointed eventually!- you are the worst trapper/kcmo
17 y
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This is a reply to # 821,732
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and your cohorts keep obscuring any reasonable depbate by hiding my CH post on the backwater forum "supplements debate". got any more urine you wanna call rain?- Re: you are the worst Celcius
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This is a reply to # 821,842Oh boy trapper did i step on your little toes! coharts! lol! you are too funny trapper, aany wayyou wont see me sporting a banner icon crying about it all! boo hoo trapper is being picked on! The typicle squeeky wheel crying foul ! And Im not going to repost any of your zany outburst ,there are just too many of them!
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- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... Celcius
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- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... chardy
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- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... Celcius
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- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... chardy
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- Re: Comment, and one pitfall of alka... Celcius
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- Re: Quick poll on long term calcium ... ParaZapper
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