What, Exactly, Is Going On? 
hopinso
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OK-I admit I've not been spending a whole lot of time here. Frankly, Curezone is not much fun anymore, with all the jealously, power struggles, and infighting among forum owners, no less. This is hardly a place that is conducive to healing. Its more like staring at a car wreck and trying to see who is injured and dead.
What exactly did Dennis Hardy do to become the target of such poor treatment? First it seems like he was challenged and attacked by forum owners themselves, next the ardent followers joined in trying to totally discredit the man. Why? Why does this man threaten Moreless and MH and cause their followers to react in such an inappropriate way? Some of these same followers tend to go ballistic if there is any real or implied criticism of their man.
From what I have read here, Dr. Hardy did take the bait and started to respond to his attackers and critics in kind. I hated to hear that, but its very human to respond to constant insults, put downs, and implications of being less than upfront with similar accusations. I admit to being curious, but, in general applaud the moderators who risked harsh criticism themselves and hid the most ugly posts. We do not need to spread the venom and poison spouted by a handful of malcontents and infect the entire site.
For those who honestly believe that MH has the right answers for achieving perfect health, then stay on Barefoot's forum and learn from him. For those who believe that Moreless is the sole possessor of the ultimate truth, then follow his teaching and advice and ignore everyone but him.
However, for those who desire to learn and discover how to truly take responsibility for their health without blindly accepting and following one person, adapting to his viewpoints on everything from politics to religion to what to eat, then allow us the freedom to explore, ask questions and most of all, think for ourselves. I don't know much about Dennis Hardy, but, right now, he is the only true teacher of all the "experts". He has no hidden agenda, is not jealous, is generally respectful, at least to those who treat him with respect. There is no reason for the other "experts" and their followers to try so hard to discredit this person. If they don't like what he is trying to say, then stay away. Its that simple-really.
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- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? White Tiger
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MoreThis is a reply to # 800,319EXACTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the bickering and nitpicking is not constructive or helpful for anybody, except maybe for egos and there is really no need for that here. - Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? #69242
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MoreThis is a reply to # 800,319As usual Hopinso, you are right on. Why doesn't Curezone give you a forum??????????
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? hopinso
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Thanks for your kind words-
I don't think I am emotionally strong enough to handle a forum at this time, especially in light of the way things are going right now. In fact, I am planning to take a break from Curezone for a little while. Owen has recommended a protocol that might help ease my chronic pain problem. I am busy reading and studying that. If his advice works out I will write about it. I just started, but things look promising. I want to focus on healing right now, and don't want to get upset or discouraged by negativity and personal attacks. I am trying to see if I can combine Owen's advice with Dr. Hardy's recommendations for treating bad backs.
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? #69242
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This is a reply to # 800,330Good Luck!! Keep us updated from time to time. I agree with you on the amount of negativity here on curezone. There was a time that I liked the Debate Forums , but I have started to sour on them recently, especially the non health ones. No amount of arguing can change someones view on religion and politics, and even the health debates are just the same ones that get recycled every few weeks/months. I am waiting for/dreading the next debate on the origin of the liver stones . It is an interesting debate in theory, but it always degenerates into heated name calling and gutter behaviour.
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? #69242
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- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? hopinso
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- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? wombat
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This is a reply to # 800,319
Right on, Hopinso, as usual, you've managed to cut through the crap and bring the focus back to what's important! :) - Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? sapphire7
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- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? babsbiltmore
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What college did he graduate from- if he will answer I have already told him why I ask in a personal offline e-mail
He chose not to answer - fine I did not go to his forum
Then all this erupted on it's own
It is a simple question answer and prove them wrong
If he won't answer then
of course everyone believes the "story at large"
Frankly CZ has had some great experts that were licensed and didn't use their credentials
(go figure)
Other have been anon
and no one knows their credentials
if any
(I'm sure someone does)
Jeez end the whole thing and say what ND college you graduated from
You have a document hanging in your office that states all the info
You are in Tx
all anyone has to do
(NOT ME!!)
I've had enough of this nonsense
but really how hard is it
There are 3 states
Washington state
Conneticut(newer)
Arizona
and I've forgotten the other
that license ND's
It is not rick to write to them and ask if Dennis Hardy of
Texas graduated from their program
Put it to bed Dennis
Which One?
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? intheclouds
18 y
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This is a reply to # 800,365All of this craziness is going to create more health problems. It puts me off when I am trying to find peace.
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? jayson
18 y
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This is a reply to # 800,372
"All of this craziness is going to create more health problems. It puts me off when I am trying to find peace."
If your peace is interrupted by Cure Zone posts, you're in a heap of trouble. Peace comes from within. All the folks in the world "out there" cannot disrupt it.
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? trapper/kcmo
18 y
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This is a reply to # 800,376not only that, your not going to find peace in the Debate Forums . thats silly.
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? trapper/kcmo
18 y
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- D (Webmaster)has spoken of this many... babsbiltmore
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This is a reply to # 800,372He's said it a thousand times- if you want the deabte forums hid- you may hide them
If you have trouble with the forum owner don't visit the forum
Find peace you will not want to read the Debate Forums
Find peace in spirituality conscsciouness love forums
This is where peace exists
Actually, something just came to me..
This is not directed at you the timing was just ahppened to be now
This is for all of us and me
This wanting things to be as they are not
is what is "sickening" us.
This not taking responsibility for what we are putting into our sweet minds
If we want peace then what are we doing in the debate forum?
It takes us to click the button and enter and click another button to "enter the fray"
We are not taking responsibility for us, if we expect reality to be different from what it clearly is"
(Sometimes it is not so clear though)
What things do we expose our most sensitive of mind to, and then be frustrated and unhappy- perhaps the nightly news
I watched a crime show last night CSI- the person I was with liked it
I knew as soon as I saw the "murder victim" I should not have that picture in my mind- even if I never consciously remember it again.
I should have excused myself gone to my space and read the 5 books I am working on right now!
But for some reason the tv is the largest dumbibng down of America ever to exist
It programs very little positive and huge amounts of materials that operate in the subconscious..(much like my Barbie Doll post to Tropicana)
We are responsible for what we intake or expose ourselves to...
Even if we did so innocently
One would like to hope that the innocent will be protected
but even here they will NOt be
So what can each of us do?
Take responsibility for our choices
Moderators, D, Owen all of you have some thinking to do one this subject- It is the time to start a New Year 2007- What can you as the power structure do to make a better CZ?
Be less interested in personal agendas? Maybe this is considered impossible?
Instead of making it easier to hide identities- D, why don't you establish an atmosphere personal responsibility- I think that is the cause of much of your needing Owen to step in and moderate the Debate Forums ( absolutely non-sensical if one thinks of it)
The reflection of the CZ mirror is these kind of behaviors- microcosom-macrocosom
what is within is without
as above
so is it below
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- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? jayson
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- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? intheclouds
18 y
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- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? trapper/kcmo
18 y
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This is a reply to # 800,319its not that simple. i wish it were.
i do not understand the negative focus on dennis either. he did nothing to warrant it. however, he certainly got his feathers ruffled and said some foul things and made some flagrant(and wrong, in my perception) assumptions.
mh was ASKED by someone to check out hardys forum(info). mh posted. dennis responded. they disaggreed and that was that. no big deal.
thats when things got strange. someone else was asking dennis questions and dennis thought he was under attack by MH-ites. it went downhill from there. moreless got involved. that went as one would expect with someone as lacking in tact and respect as he. then it became personal attacks and spilled over into the Debate Forums . its a mess.
also, some of the posts that got hidden were really good ones. when dennis took it upon himself to visit MH, joel gave a classic response. he couldnt care less what is posted on his forum because he figures there is always something to learn from it. alas, his response, which was a lengthy one, was hidden, taken out with the rest of the trash.
moreless continues his long slide into whatever delusion he thinks he is living under. he is also protected by hiding his most egregious posts, postponing his ultimate demise here.
there are so many good thinkers and self experimenters here, professional and amateur, there is no reason there cant be room for all. it simply needs to be allowed. those that are worthy will stand, those who are not will fade away.
curezone will remain. the sick season is coming up and it is going to get busy here. lets be busy with our work for them. and for ourselves.- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? #58143
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Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 800,516
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When I lay me down to die
Goin' up to the spirit in the sky
Goin' up to the spirit in the sky
That's where I'm gonna go when I die
When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that's the best
Prepare yourself you know it's a must
Gotta have a friend in Jesus
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Gonna recommend you
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When you die and they lay you to rest
You're gonna go to the place that's the best
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I got a friend in Jesus
So you know that when I die
He's gonna set me up with
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When I die and they lay me to rest
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- This IS an R- and should be read by ... babsbiltmore 18 y 3,237
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? #58143
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- Thanks, Spirit southern belle
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This is a reply to # 800,319Thank you, Spirit, for giving Hopinso's post the "R" it so richly deserves.
Now, if everyone will just listen to what she is trying to say.
I couldn't agree more.
Paulette- Re:The conductor vairagi
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This is a reply to # 800,431Seems the process is working quite well,
tho sometimes the orchestra thinks it doesnt need that old guy up front with the little stick.
- Re:The conductor vairagi
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- Re: Oi! #48222
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This is a reply to # 800,319Sun salutations to you, Hopinso! ;)
I have no will to discern what is and is not true in this instance, but I would like to ask you how you are and have been lately? You are one of very few people (or phantom internet entities) I wonder about from time to time. I do hope that you are well.- Hi CF. Good to see you are doing wel... hanna 18 y 3,100
- Re: Oi! hopinso
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This is a reply to # 800,747I am glad to see you back Lee. I have wondered about you, even thought of E-mailing you a few times. However, it seems like you needed to distance yourself from Curezone for a while, and I could understand that. As for me, I have a glimmer of hope for more relief. I will write much more if it works and promises to help others here.
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? babsbiltmore
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This is a reply to # 800,319Here is the problem- The ND is a figment -so why add it
He can stand as tall as any other CZ expert without it- can't he?
No one else makes up degrees (or do they?)
Always this weasel stuff here on CZ
Are we not "good enough as we are?"
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? hopinso
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Why are you so obsessed with two letters? If the advice the man gives seems reasonable, then follow it; if it does not resonate, then ignore it. This whole anti-Dennis Hardy thing makes absolutely no sense at all. If you don't like him ignore him. The man was being attacked and criticized before he ever made his first post here on Curezone. Fortunately, a moderator got rid of those offensive and unwelcoming posts.
Any of us could go out to different websites and pick up all kinds of degrees and even get ordained as preachers and it would not change who we are one iota; all we would have is a string of letters after our names. Dr. Hardy seems very knowledgeable to me; and he did have some real education whether it was on campus or not. I did not find any errors in his posts about herbs. I do not know enough about homeopathy to judge his recommendations there. Still, it is obvious that no matter where he studied, he is well educated on the subject. Why not focus on that aspect, or simply ignore him? Is there another reason some of you are constantly attacking his credentials? Did Moreless or another forum owner put you up to this? I have never seen such a negative reaction to a forum owner, not even Moreless got such rude treatment until he started attacking those who did not agree with him. He just got tit for tat, but Dr. Hardy got attacked from the start. - Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? White Tiger
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This is a reply to # 801,112If you put effert in getting the ND initials...Why the hell not use the two letters?!?!
Who is to say a person did or did not study and learn, regardless which school?!?!
I'm beginning to wonder how much is nitpicking and how much is people wanting to be "one up" or bloated ego
- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? hopinso
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- Re: What, Exactly, Is Going On? White Tiger
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