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Hello again....
I have another question. It may have been asked and answered somewhere in the past, but there are so many pages to read - I just can't read them all with my schedule the way it is.
Does anyone know how oil pulling would possibly effect one's cholesterol?
What about consuming the oils? Do we know what effect the oils have on our cholesterol oils?
What specifically even about coconut oils?If there is a place where this is posted and anyone knows about it I'd appreciate the link.
Thanks....carea
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- Re: cholesterol question molly bloom
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MoreThis is a reply to # 772,083We've heard from a few other here about how their cholesterol tested lower after oil pulling, however there is the belief that these tests are fallacies perpetrated by the pharmaceutical companies to continue to sell drugs. There are many things on the internet regarding this.
That being said, I find it very significant that some of your symptoms disappeared after oil pulling. As they say "seeing is believing".
Here is something posted very recently by Wombat regarding oils. You have to read through the entire site, but this page does discuss high cholesterol.
http://www.udoerasmus.com/articles/udo/fthftk3.htm
I think doctors are very valuable for testing purposes. We can then take those test results and find our own cures. But it takes work trying to figure out what is the best protocol for you. I think I can speak for the curezone community when they say...cleanse, cleanse, cleanse.
Clean the bowels
Clean the liver
Clean the kidneys
Cleanse for parasites
Start with this base, and your body will work to take care of the rest
And of course, if oil pulling seems to be working for you, then go with it throughout.
Peace, and good health.
Molly
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- Re: cholesterol question trapper/kcmo
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- Re: cholesterol question #70007
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This is a reply to # 772,098
Hi Molly,
Thank you for answering me. Sorry for the delay, I can't get on that often. I am interested in the information you have given me and I will check out the link. Thanks for looking it up.
Last 2 years my cholesterol total number was good, but my good cholesterol was low. I'm actually getting my blood taken tomorrow and I was just wondering if the OP would have any effect. I hope it has a good effect.
From other places I've read here on CZ I understand that it is best to get the diet in good shape before cleansing, and that is what I'm working on. I still have to read a lot more about cleansing before I try. I think I will probably try the Master Cleanse first, as was suggested to me for my sister on an earlier post. But I'm not quite ready yet.
Thanks so much for your time and support. I really appreciate you...c
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- Re: cholesterol question amato
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This is a reply to # 772,083
check my previous post here:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=108711#i
additionally, my current bad cholesterol is 196- Re: cholesterol question #70007
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This is a reply to # 772,340Hi Amato,
I'm getting my cholesterol checked tomorrow. I've not had it checked in a little over a year and my diet has been crazy this year trying different ways of eating. I have no idea what effect if any that will have on the cholesterol. My numbers have always been in the normal range, but my good cholesterol was low and my bad cholesterol was getting close to where they would consider to be high. I've been oil pulling for 6-7 weeks now, so hopefully things will look pretty good tomorrow. Thanks for your post....c- Re: cholesterol question amato
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This is a reply to # 774,863
I'm sure your results will be better now!
I've been oil pulling since April? I don;t remember very well though. There are many ways it has helped me.
I think it's a very easy way of taking care of your health and costs almost nothing.That'a amazing indeed, when you think and listen to all of those who do it and see positive changes in their health.
In the past I used to oil-pull but didn't do it correct and of course I didn't see any difference(3-4yrs ago)
Now the differences are so many that I think I'm never gonna stop doing that for the rest of my life.Some here think that it's much too superfluous for a 28yrs old doing such things.But I wish they knew...
Keep oil-pulling.When times passes you may see more benefits.
Best of luck and health
Greetings from the Mediterranean- Re: cholesterol question #70007
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This is a reply to # 775,235
Hi Amato,
My total cholesterol came back at 161. I don't have the breakdown with me, I left it at work, but my good cholesterol is still on the low side. 1 year ago my total cholesterol was 159, but that small fluctuation does not mean much to me. What is funny is that for some strange reason I had a strong craving for liverwurst and ate it 4 days in a row before I had my cholesterol checked. This is not something I eat often, maybe only once a year. I've read that liver is very high in cholesterol. I think that my cholesterol is pretty stable.
I do believe that oil pulling is helping me in many ways. I have had different sensations in the muscles of my face, neck and upper chest, feelings like you might have in your muslces when they are very tight and need to be massaged. When these feelings are strong I feel like I need to oil pull again and also massage these areas at the same time. It almost seems like the oil and the oil pulling action is drawing stuff out of the mouth. The oil pulling has so many good effects for me that I also plan on continuing this treatment with no plans of stopping.
Thank you for your posts & peace to you....c- Re: cholesterol question amato
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This is a reply to # 778,928hi
I also had the same muscle sensations in the pre oil-pulling period. I don't know if it helped but now they are rarer.
I also oil pull when I feel something strange or simply down. It makes the difference.
I eat 30gr cow fat each day(in a plan to cure my UC). Although oil-pulling has reduced my bad cholesterol, I sometimes think of how elevated it could have been if I didn't oil-pull.
Keep pulling
greetings from the Mediterranean- Re: cholesterol question #70007
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This is a reply to # 779,100Did you by any chance read the links below posted by Squeakyclean? I've read some and it is very interesting that some research shows that people with higher cholesterol levels enjoy better health...What is UC? thanks...c
Hey, here's some alternative reading for you. The body produces its own cholesterol and recycles it, so eaten cholesterol is not the main factor in high cholesterol. Also the whole theory on cholesterol and heart disease is a THEORY and apparently a faulty one. None of it is about oil pulling, though.
http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#chol
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/coconut_oil.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/fats_phony.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/highcholesterol.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/hd.html
http://www.mercola.com/2005/may/28/cholesterol_heart.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2006/nov/4/finally-science-starts-to-challenge-lower-c...
http://www.mercola.com/2001/jun/23/cholesterol.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2000/nov/26/ginger.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2001/dec/15/cholesterol.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/5/cholesterol.htm
http://healthforu.info/health/diethealth/Saturated-Fat-Food-Lies.html- Re: cholesterol question amato
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This is a reply to # 779,233
Really interesting topics. There is truth inside these sites.
I remember people who used to eat butter like crazy and were very healthy, not like us the new generation who has health issues much earlier in our lives.
Supposing high cholesterol is good, sould I be happy? lol
well UC stands for Ulcerative Colitis.Although a chronic and incurable disease( of the large intestine) for the occidental medicine, it has been proven to lot of people here that it can be cured. I'm in the final stages of cure now.With patience waiting to get rid of it completely, once for ever.\
be well
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- Re: cholesterol question laughingrrrl
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This is a reply to # 772,083OP by itself probably wouldn't affect your cholesterol a whole lot. Cholesterol is an animal product, only found in animal bodies. If you want to lower it, eat fewer or no animals. When I ate vegetarian, my cholesterol just fell off the charts.
There was a recent independent, academically-funded, long term, large survey study on the eating habits of female nurses that found that refined sugar/carbohydrates increased weight and heart disease risk, more vegetarian diets lowered it, and THE AMOUNT OF FAT IN THE DIET HAD NO EFFECT AT ALL. This was a really radical finding, since it completely contradicts what the American Heart Association has been touting for "forever," and supports what those "quack" low-carb advocates have been saying for a long time. ;) Sorry I didn't keep the link! But it's relatively new "news" and someone better at internet searching than me could probably find it.
So if you are replacing animal fats with vegetable fats, you are doing good by your body. If you're replacing refined carbohydrate calories with vegetable fat calories, you're also doing good by your body. About the only way you could go wrong would be to add so much oil to your diet that you pack on the pounds, but apparantly (see "The Shangri-La Diet" book) more oil taken wisely can be a weight LOSS technique.
Well, I'm going to go OP myself, then follow it up with a tablespoon of VCO.
Take care!
- Re: cholesterol question #70007
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This is a reply to # 773,282
Hi Laughingrrl!
Thank you for you post! I am very interested in what you wrote. About 2 weeks ago my husband and I made a joint decision to cut back on the amount of red meat we eat. We've been eating fish mostly since then since he is not a big chicken eater. I could proabably easily go vegan most of the time, but he is not interested in going that far. We have made other healthy changes to the diet, but I still have a sweet tooth that I have to battle. I need to drop some weight and so I'm working on eating more vegetables and a little fruit a day. When I first started this a few weeks ago I was trying to eat a total of 10 fruits and vegetables a day. After doing this for 2-3 days I had my doctors appointment, and my normally very clean tongue was covered with a white film and I was feeling so sluggish I wanted to go to sleep. She probably wondered what I meant when I told her that oil pulling gave me energy...the next time I oil pulled it ALL went away...and of course I've cut back on the fruit quite a bit. I know I need to cleanse. I want to read that book "The Shangri-La Diet," sounds interesting to me!So...are you saying that - even though VCO is supposedly a saturated fat - that it will not cause you to have cholesterol problems? I know...I must sound terribly confused to all of you who know so much about the oils. I am like a baby learning to walk here. I would like to buy a book on oils if anyone can suggest a good one.
Thank you for your posts - I'm really learning a lot from you - and it may sound funny but I think of you in the mornings when I'm using the VCO for deodorant, and at night when I'm putting it on my face. It is good to put on your face isn't it?...:) thanks...c
- on VCO, LDL/HDL and weight loss laughingrrrl
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This is a reply to # 774,869VCO is absolutely fabulous for your face. Women with money to burn spend mega-bucks for wrinkle creams and whatnot with organic acids (alphahydroxy acid, betahydroxy acid) to exfoliate their skin - they ARE nice, and it's like a mini-chemical peel every time you use them. But VCO's fatty acid content - it's half lauric acid! - means you get the same benefit when you use it on your face! The fats seal in moisture and the lauric acid helps exfoliate. So you end up with shining, glowing skin. I just can't get over how wonderful VCO is. I use it right before bed.
According to the most recent research, VCO should not affect your total cholesterol count in a negative way. One thing I want to point out, though, is if you are losing weight (and people do lose weight using VCO) your *lipid profile* will change WHILE you are burning fat, so that you have more LDL. That's because the stored fat is moving from the fat cells through your bloodstream to where your body can burn it, and the LDL is the fat transporting system of your blood. So if your weight is going down, DON'T WORRY about your HDL/LDL ratios. They will be temporarily skewed so they look bad with a one-time blood test, but overall you are getting healthier and doing the best thing for your body. When your weight stabilizes again, your HDL/LDL should look better than ever.
I only mention this because my 70 year old father recently lost a huge amount of weight and freaked out his Dr's by having his LDL jump up and developing a 90% blocked heart artery. *Losing weight quickly is hard on the body.* His arteries did temporarily clog up, BUT the thing is, that happened because he was moving large amounts of his body fat through his blood. Fat cells don't burn fat, they just store it. The liver converts fat to a form your muscles can burn... so if you lose 100 pounds, that means 100 pounds of fat has to move from your butt, thighs and hips through your bloodstream to your liver. For my dad, when his weight stabilized again, his HDL then came along and scavenged up the arterial deposits and cleaned up the problem. He had a stress test at an awful time -- right after the LDL had peaked and before the HDL had cleaned up the mess -- and ended up with open heart surgery for a bypass. Now, if he had changed things more gradually, he might not have had such a radical and hard time of it.
I hope this doesn't make things muddier instead of clearer.
I'm so glad you think of me! Whee! Hee hee.
- Re: on VCO, LDL/HDL and weight loss #70007
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This is a reply to # 774,885
Hi Laughingrrl!
Thank you for your wonderful post! That is so interesting and informative that I am saving it.
Again I want to say that I apologize for not being able to get on-line sooner, and I can't stay on long tonight.
I think of you and everyone a lot and I love this forum!
I like the way the VCO seems to work on my face and other areas. I've not been eating too much of it yet, I think I want to get a different brand to do that. Did you dad lose weight because of the VCO? What else was he doing at the same time?On another subject - I mentioned this before briefly but want to mention again that I am drinking water after oil pulling and cleaning my mouth - and I've gone up to two 16 ouncebottles of water after a pull. I drink them pretty quickly and one right after the other, and I have found that I don't go to the bathroom for almost 2 hours. This is a good sign for me because usually I would have the urge to go very often after drinking even a little water. I believe the body is doing something different after oil pulling...what do you think? Have you tried this and do you or anyone have the same experience?
Thanks again for you replies!....c
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- on VCO, LDL/HDL and weight loss laughingrrrl
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- Re: cholesterol question SqueakyClean
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This is a reply to # 772,083Hey, here's some alternative reading for you. The body produces its own cholesterol and recycles it, so eaten cholesterol is not the main factor in high cholesterol. Also the whole theory on cholesterol and heart disease is a THEORY and apparently a faulty one. None of it is about oil pulling, though.
http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#chol
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/coconut_oil.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/fats_phony.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/highcholesterol.html
http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/hd.html
http://www.mercola.com/2005/may/28/cholesterol_heart.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2006/nov/4/finally-science-starts-to-challenge-lower-c...
http://www.mercola.com/2001/jun/23/cholesterol.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2000/nov/26/ginger.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2001/dec/15/cholesterol.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/5/cholesterol.htm
http://healthforu.info/health/diethealth/Saturated-Fat-Food-Lies.html- Re: cholesterol question #70007
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This is a reply to # 776,527Wow,
Thank you for all of the links! I've read most of the first one so far - its pretty long and very interesting!
I'll save all these links and read them as I can.
Again, I really appreciate you posting these!
Take Care....c - Re: cholesterol question #70007
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This is a reply to # 776,527Hi SqueakyClean - I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate you sending me these links. I've really been enjoying reading all of this interesting stuff! Thanks again!...carea
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- Re: cholesterol question molly bloom
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