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posting nonsense. I don't mind when someone debates an issue or two but when he starts bragging then it's really annoying especially when they don't know anything and especially when they tear down every natural doctor out there. So it's just nonsense. Most of these guys come and go. I've seen this repeatedly over the last year. No matter what you say they have a witty comeback. Makes a good laugh and I usually don't respond because it's just annoying and it's a waste of my time.
No matter how many times you mention symptom free or cure it doesn't matter they want proof. Well there is usually no proof in alternative medicine and we know why. But when you read the THOUSANDS OF CURE STORIES in curezone that should be enuf to make your own decision.
It's usually people who have failed at alternative medicine or loners or people who want to feel important or who knows.
I applaud curezone for having a debate forum in general. Most forums kick people out for offensive views which don't work for their interests.
One last thing Curezone members are tough and smart and are NOT sheep. They won't fall for STUPID NONSENSE TREATMENTS by both the alternative or traditional fields.
No one here is buying miracle shampoos for balding or penis enlargement pills..lol that don't work. No one here is buying into infomercials as well.
The basics of curezone is to cleanse your system and eat well and LET YOUR BODY CURE OR HEAL ITSELF. There is no miracle pill or miracle protocol.Advertisement
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- Re: Every so there's so often there'... KyleDrew
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MoreThis is a reply to # 763,839It's called being in denial. Do you know why high blood pressure is called the silent killer. A person can have it yet feel fine for a long time. The same is true for diabetes. It can be damaging your kidneys and you don't even realize it. Encouraging people to live with their head in the sand is irresponsible. Why do they avoid the doctor because the smarter side of them knows that real doctors tell people the truth not what they want to hear.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 763,843i went to doctor after doctor after doctor, and had test after test after test, and took pill after pill after pill, and you know what that got me???? nadda, squat, a big fat zero, and body that was worse off than the day i first stepped inot the doc's office.
i turned to wholistic health and reversed two "incurable chronic" conditions the docs couldn't touch with a ten foot pole. you want proof??? there's your proof, dude.
but i won't stand in your way, go ahead and take as many pills and poisonous potions are you want, its a free country. just don't tell me docs know where its at, cause they didn't do squat for me.- Re: Check it out kyle #40888
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This is a reply to # 765,492It's pretty much pointless talking to him. He'll just call you a liar or say that you don't know what you're talking about and didn't reverse anything.
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This is a reply to # 765,516Are you familiar with the words anecdotal, hearsay etc. There are plenty of people out there telling stories that are just that and nothing more, half-truths etc. The reason you folks are victims is that you never learned how to separate fact from fiction. I'd really like to help at least one of you to understand that it is in your best interest to develop a healthy degree of skepticism/critical thinking skills.
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This is a reply to # 765,492Since many of you don't understand the meaning of the word cured it doesn't surprise me that you don't understand the meaning of the word proof either.
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Obviously you can Google that for yourself. I don't believe in dumping things in my posts as so many here do. I'm responding to the people who say that they know that they have been cured of diabetes with Hulda Clark 's methods even though any real expert on the subject will tell you that this is 100% not true. Just because you believe that you've been "cured" doesn't mean that you have. Go to the doctor and prove it!- The pain is gone, call it what you w... finallyfaith
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This is a reply to # 766,120well i have gone to the doc. i explained how the muslce spasms in my back had gone from 10 on a scale of one to ten, to a current condition of very often non-existent. previously they were so bad i could only type for about 15 minutes at a time, now i can type for hours at a time. the anti inflammatories and the painmeds did nothing, they didn't even touch the pain. the only thing that worked was heavy duty narcotics, and i really didn't feel like being a zombie so i didn't take them.
the spasms stopped as i turned around my eating habits and did some juice fasting and some bowel cleansing and a series of other wholistic health protocols. in the past i have stopped doing those things for a while, and then boom! back come the back spasms. then after a few days or a couple weeks of healthy habits and they are gone again.
so when i go from screaming agonizing pain for ten years, to either very little or no pain, i consider that awesome and miraculous. if you don't like the word "cure" find another one, its fine by me, call it whatever you want, but clearly wholistic health measures helped me when nothing else could.- Re: The pain is gone, call it what y... KyleDrew
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This is a reply to # 766,215I'm glad that you're getting better. Most likely it was at least in part a mental thing. Tension related etc. The power of suggestion/the placebo effect is often underestimated.
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This is a reply to # 766,221everytime someone with problems cures themself with wholistic means its always the same response, "it was all in your head"
i have many other stories of a whole host of things that have been made MUCH better or totally better with wholistic health measures. thats the only proof i need - it works!! if it didn't work i wouldn't be wasting my time and effort doing it.
you can argue books and theories and stats and theories and ideas all day. but when it comes down to brass tacks, if someone gets better, if they get free of pain, if they can walk again or go off their meds or what have you, thats a big deal and thats proof. and this site is chock full of stories of people who have CURED themselves with wholistic health protocols. if you think all thats "in their heads" then perhaps you can start a business making money teaching people how to ruce themselves just by thinking, it must work that way afterall!! hahahaha!
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I'm not saying I know that is the explanation in your case but often times it is at least one factor for things like back pain and headaches etc. I know however that anyone who claims that they are cured of diabetes from cleanses is full of it and it's reasonable for me to point that out.- i have seen it with my own eyes, mor... finallyfaith
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This is a reply to # 766,235how you could 'know' such a thing is beyond me, but lets just say you do.
what about my friend who was suffering from joint aches so debilitating she had to reduce the hours on her job and was having problems paying her bills. i noticed she dranks lots and lots of diet soda with aspertame in it. i told her that aspertame could cause her symptoms and she told me i was nuts and said she would stop drinking it just to prove me wrong. well, in a about three day her pain had lessened, and in two weeks she was able to go back to work. was that "all in her head"?
and what about my friend who cut off the tip of his finger and it turned gangrenous and the doc who had sewn it back on wanted to amputate it. my friend said no, let me try a few things. so he started stopped the antibitics and all the meds he was on, and started drinking huge amounts of fresh wheatgrass juice. the very day he started drinking the wheatgrass the finger began improving. the more he drank the better it got, when he stopped because he had to take a short trip, the finger again began turning blue. he started with the wheatgrass again, and it started to get better again. eventually it turned pink and bran new, completely HEALED. was that "all in his head"?
i could go on and on. i have seen wholistic health do amazing things for people, i have seen it literally save people's lives with my own eyes. so you can doubt it all you want, but i have seen it first hand and i know. and these lame "all in your head" claims are silly at best, and certainly are totally unscientific. but maybe you don't believe in science?- As repetitive as he is, I still say ... #461
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This is a reply to # 766,268It is amazing this kyle person can stay so entirely resistant (based on the replies he is still getting). It just can't be normal. Maybe he is getting not 5 but 50 dollars for every reply he makes here. Big Pharma can afford that kind of money, although even they are probably seeing just how counter-effective he is.
But anyway, like I've noticed, you can beat a dead horse all day and it still will just lie there, sorta like this guy's ability to think independantly. :) - Re: i have seen it with my own eyes,... DavidEtheredge
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This is a reply to # 766,268And I guess if you see with your own eyes someone on "Christian" TV saying they walked in with a brain tumor and now it's gone you believe this. If they believe it and tell the story then you believe it. There's no need to ask for proof and determine the truth. This is the definition of gullible and many people make a nice living exploiting people like you. You should direct your anger at them instead of the doctors.
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nope, i never believe anything on tv on face value, what i am talking about is my own personal experience, and the experiences of those i personally know. that can't be faked. do you think my own experiences and all the experiences of the many many people i know who have benefitted tremendously from wholistic health has all been the placebo affect? are you saying that the placebo affect can heal people of arthritis, cancer, muscle spasms, asthma, etc etc.?? is that your position?
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This is a reply to # 765,492I believe you. My sister has been going from doctor to doctor (even John Hopkins Hospital in MD). No one knows what is wrong with her. She is 47 and walks and acts like a 90 year old. Lots of pain, dizzyness, hoarse throat and voice, and lots more symptoms. I found this site trying to find a cure for her. I am praying that this will finally be the cure. (its our last hope) I have ordered her (and me) Humaworm. and trying the salt/c. I am trying to figure out what the zapper is all about and may order one of them.
Thanks to EVERYONE on curezone - I have learned soo much
any other advice will be greatly appreciated - I am trying to read as much as I can.
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This is a reply to # 763,839It's like asking if there's proof that God exisists. Well, no but...
If you have it personally, you know it, just like health. Cannot always be measured.
Math formulas don't make me smile. But truth and wellness do.- Re: Every so there's so often there'... KyleDrew
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This is a reply to # 765,480There are tests that can measure whether a person has diabetes or not though. So why live with your head in the sand-why not go for confirmation of your belief that you've been cured by "Doctor" Hulda Clark 's program? Because you know that the doctor will tell you the truth rather than what you want to hear. The truth at this time is that if you had diabetes you still have diabetes. It may be under control due to diet and exercise and weight loss but you still have diabetes.
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This is a reply to # 763,839Good points, bio! I don't mind a lively debate either, but when someone starts resorting to calling the other a liar and basically ignoring anything that doesn't further their 'cause', it does get old pretty fast. And like you I have seen this type of person on every natural health oriented group I have ever been on. I do respond to them for a while, obviously, cuz I have a bit of spare time in the afternoons, but eventually even I can see when I am beating a dead horse---and this horse seems pretty darn dead to me! :)
It does make for a busy forum though, even if it is just everyone taking their turn trying to reason with the recalcient individual. This one seems so very determined though, I just have to wonder if he is here for other reasons than to 'debate'-- I am not giving up on my theory that he is earning extra credit by harrasing us! hahha
And I do agree with you on the idea that we here on the curezone and other yahoo Health Forums aren't in the least sheep just waiting to be fleeced. Probably one of the best things about these forums is that it is people like you and me, sharing their stories of success or asking how others might be dealing with some health issue, versus the idiots sitting in front of a boobtube and mindlessly dialing the phone number to get fleeced by whatever purveyor happens to be on the screen at the time.
I am sure these types of groups give big Pharma the willies because we talk amoungst ourselves and realize things that we might not realize otherwise, after hearing other people having the same problems with a certain drug or procedure. We start to see a bigger picture than perhaps Big Pharma and the medicial industry would like us to, eh? :)Advertisement
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