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alienbaby
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I'm just wondering if everyone else here is talking about parasites literally or maybe a few others are speaking both literally and metaphorically? This forum is definitely the place I feel nearest to insanity, because there are a lot of people here who sound sometimes like maybe parasites aren't their only problem... But the way I first got involved in this parasite cleanse crusade had to do with making mental connections between excretion and the emotional process of spliting off the shadow and projecting it on others. Nothing is working to get rid of my worms and so I'm really starting to wonder if my *belief* in my parasites is somehow causing them to continue manifesting physically inside me. This exact thing happened to John Perkins, as recounted in his book *Shapeshifting.* It's not precisely psychosomatic in the sense of being imaginary, but a very real reality we unconsciously choose to continue walking in.
I'm still going to purchase products to try to kill my wormies with herbs, but I will acknowledge that sometime soon I'm going to need to let go of this reality and move fully into a reality in which I don't have worms.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 742,210This forum is definitely the place I feel nearest to insanity, because there are a lot of people here who sound sometimes like maybe parasites aren't their only problem..
(It's too bad you feel that way-- it's not my place to judge another human being so I can't give you any feedback on that)
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"It's not precisely psychosomatic in the sense of being imaginary, but a very real reality we unconsciously choose to continue walking in."
( Good point, because I believe alot of times our very attitudes or thoughts could be what keeps a health condition from improving-- almost like a "self-fulfilling prophecy"?. I know that can even apply to weight loss. Sometimes it's an unconscious choice we have to remain a certain way)Advertisement
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- Re: Are your Wormies Reptilian Extra... apxr
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This is a reply to # 742,210Hey there.
I come from a rigid scientific background, and I questioned my own sanity many times during this process, when I was heavily infested and didn't even have a clue about this "worm problem".
When I slowly started to suspect worms and to consider 'a bigger picture', as rational as I am I began to wonder where my marbles were.
One of the first arguments that I considered was the possibility that all of this was just "inside my head", all imagined and not real.
Not so.
Unfortunately -in a sense-, that argument soon lost ground after I began to deal with microscopy. There's just no lying under the scope, unless something "evil" and obscure distorts our very perception of visual reality, including photography, chemistry and physics -and of course I'm being a bit bitterly sarcastic there.
[I'm not suggesting that everyone should resort to microscopy. Microscopy is an ART, a scientific art that is hard to master, I must say. It requires a relentless scientific background if one is to achieve verifiable results. It is very easy to be fooled by the eye during microscopy. However, there are images that are just too obvious and 'organic' to dismiss].
When I saw worms and ova inside a patient's brain for the first time with my own eyes by simple visual inspection (I was never told that this could remotely happen), I realized just WHAT I was up against. I became horrified because I KNEW that I was facing the TRUTH, an unfortunate scientific Truth. Of course right then I realized that I had to do something about it and quick, or just 'forfeit' and continue as cattle, trying to live in some form of content denial. I knew better.
(Sigh)
When I examine a sample and I don't find any evidence of parasitic infestation, THEN I know they're probably gone, not before. I know this only too well.
I know how absurd many of these manifestations do sound, but one at a time I've had to learn to consider them as possible beyond delusions and "mental" problems. They may well be "mental" problems if in fact the worms are affecting the mind somehow.
Maybe someday someone will look back and will realize just how close to the Truth we've been with this whole thing, if we never get to figure it out ourselves here and now. And then again maybe we're wrong about all of it.
If I could go to outer space, I can tell you that I'd be performing experiments on ova out there, to see how they respond/react to that environment.
I can tell you one thing with a fair amount of certainty:
If you have been diagnosed with 'worms', your problem is VERY real and it WILL NOT go away just by 'willing it' or wishing it away. That is a FACT and I stand by it.
The real question is, are you just infested, or is there "something" else inside? Over 95 times out of 100 I've found "something" else, which may explain why it becomes so hard to kill worms after all regardless of the method employed.
I'm not 100% free from these things and I don't really know if I'll ever be, but I see a lot less of them inside me now in decreasing numbers over time, and I feel like a million euros a day. If I'm not 'deluding' myself with fallacious arguments, I may be on to something truly good and healthy, and I don't see why not, if the evidence seems to suggest this over and over, through every single patient I'm assisting.
Unless proven false later on, my arguments still seem to hold and I must hold on to them as firmly as I can. It's been my only way out of this mess.
Well, just some thoughts.- Re: Are your Wormies Reptilian Extra... alienbaby
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This is a reply to # 742,287apxr: "The real question is, are you just infested, or is there 'something' else inside? Over 95 times out of 100 I've found 'something' else, which may explain why it becomes so hard to kill worms after all regardless of the method employed."
alienbaby: I'd be interested in hearing what u mean by "something" here. Like a kind of demonic entitiy? Or is that just me and u meant something totally different. I've noticed some interesting correlations between Clark's "zapper" and a number of similar devices such as radionics devices and some other gadgets I've heard are used to clear allergies and such. I guess following my own logic though what I said at the end of my original post missed a point, that it wouldn't be the belief in worms that caused them to manifest but rather negative beliefs of some other kind, a metaphorical way in which we continue to act EMOTIONALLY as hosts for lower-astral "reptilian" entities. Probably beliefs about who we are that are not only untrue but benefit others who don't have our best interests in mind.
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alienbaby: "This forum is definitely the place I feel nearest to insanity, because there are a lot of people here who sound sometimes like maybe parasites aren't their only problem."
Boldyloxx: (It's too bad you feel that way-- it's not my place to judge another human being so I can't give you any feedback on that)
alienbaby: it's not necessarily that i'm judging anyone so much as observing that this general topic has the potential to blossom into a wild paranoia party, and i sometimes doubt that everyone here is thinking clearly and wonder if the fixation on parasites isn't sometimes a symptom of a much larger problem rather than the real ultimate problem itself. Like maybe unresolved childhood abuse or even D.I.D -- and I'm just observing that what makes me feel unstable is the fuzzy area where I share beliefs with others here, and worry i guess if vibrating too close to some others' frequency here won't cause me to absorb additional problems rather than cure the ones i arrived with.- Re: Wild Paranoia Parties UserX
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I say this with a great big grin on my face and hope you laugh when you read it.
If having a worm try to screw it's way out of your head isn't a good enough reason to have a paranoid party, I don't know what is! Fact is, the darn things started moving around in my body when I attempted to exterminate them. And I'm scared the big one in my head might die off and give me a brain infection. Excuse me for thinking this might be a legitimate fear.
Of course, there are a whole lot of people who would much rather believe the anti-parasitical herbs are making them hallucinate, and quit taking them, than go through the discomfort and horrifying feelings that occur when you start disturbing the mother load. It's beyond creepy.
But if you've got worms, and you choose to ignore them, because it creeps you out when they get uncomfortable and start moving around, deep down under the denial, the truth remains: You've got worms.
My brother says he likes his worms. He wants his worms. He believes they are helping him digest his food, or some such crap. Hey! I told him that if the creatures living inside you are beneficial and benevolent, and the relationship is synergistic, not parasitic, then by all means, do not exterminate your worms.
But if they are making you miserable, what are you going to do? Wave a white flag and lay down and die a slow miserable death? Not me.
And yes, I've also been to therapy because I was sexually abused as a child. But that is not what put worms in my head.
I know a few people who are really into the paranoid Conspiracy theories. They love to sit around and commiserate about how the trilateral commission is plotting to enslave everyone, and the skull and cross bones is a society of devil worshippers, who torture and kill babies, and all manner of stuff that is beyond depressing, because even if it was true, you couldn't do anything about it anyway.
Frankly, I think they are heavily infested with worms, and it is making them paranoid. If they would reduce their parasite loads, they would look on the bright side of things, and feel better about life.
Of course, they all believe that having worms is perfectly normal, and I'm crazy for trying to kill them. They'd rather be all gloom and doom about the future of the entire world. I'd rather be fighting worms, than worried about the trilateral commission, because there is something I can do about the worms.
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This is a reply to # 742,992Bravo! Great post! We change the world by changing ourselves anyway now don't we? (Grin)
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This is a reply to # 742,972Hello.
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apxr: "The real question is, are you just infested, or is there 'something' else inside? Over 95 times out of 100 I've found 'something' else, which may explain why it becomes so hard to kill worms after all regardless of the method employed."
alienbaby: I'd be interested in hearing what u mean by "something" here. Like a kind of demonic entity?
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Absolutely not. I'm talking hard science, not fantasy or unproven/unprovable arguments. When I say "something" I mean "an unspecified organism, pathogen or factor" within the host, "something" that can be looked at under the microscope if one knows how and where to look, and "something" that can be killed in one way or the other. Of course that is my definition. I can't [and won't] speak for everyone.
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Or is that just me and u meant something totally different.
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Just you.
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I've noticed some interesting correlations between Clark's "zapper" and a number of similar devices such as radionics devices and some other gadgets I've heard are used to clear allergies and such.
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Personally, I don't believe in or endorse any "gadget", treatment or method that I can't put to the test myself, scientifically speaking. I do listen to everyone but I examine every argument carefully. I'm sure that there are many approaches and/or gadgets out there that are a "hobbyist's kit" at best.
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I guess following my own logic though what I said at the end of my original post missed a point, that it wouldn't be the belief in worms that caused them to manifest but rather negative beliefs of some other kind,
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I understood your point. It's a clear possibility. The illusion of illness COULD be based on some 'belief' and not on an actual physical structure.
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a metaphorical way in which we continue to act EMOTIONALLY as hosts for lower-astral "reptilian" entities.
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Well, I don't know about "reptilian" entities, but the metaphor and the emotional response make sense. Scientifically I only know for sure what I can prove through a method of critical logic.
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Probably beliefs about who we are that are not only untrue but benefit others who don't have our best interests in mind.
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That is quite possible, and in fact I'm sure that it must be happening in a number of cases, where either the patient is genuinely afflicted by "something" [according to my current definition of it] and someone is taking advantage of that situation without really helping, or where a patient BELIEVES he's afflicted by "something" when in fact it's all in his/her head, and again someone is making a profit from all of it without contributing to the patient's improvement in any factual manner. That is why I mentioned that "if in fact you've been diagnosed then the problem is real", not to mean that all medical diagnoses are definitive, either, which we know is NOT the case.
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This is a reply to # 742,972Hello again.
I'm sorry to reply to this post which was originated in response to Boldyloxx, but I feel that I should make a comment anyway.
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alienbaby: "This forum is definitely the place I feel nearest to insanity, because there are a lot of people here who sound sometimes like maybe parasites aren't their only problem."
Boldyloxx: (It's too bad you feel that way-- it's not my place to judge another human being so I can't give you any feedback on that)
alienbaby: it's not necessarily that i'm judging anyone so much as observing that this general topic has the potential to blossom into a wild paranoia party, and i sometimes doubt that everyone here is thinking clearly and wonder if the fixation on parasites isn't sometimes a symptom of a much larger problem rather than the real ultimate problem itself. Like maybe unresolved childhood abuse or even D.I.D -- and I'm just observing that what makes me feel unstable is the fuzzy area where I share beliefs with others here, and worry i guess if vibrating too close to some others' frequency here won't cause me to absorb additional problems rather than cure the ones i arrived with.
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alienbaby: it's not necessarily that i'm judging anyone so much as observing that this general topic has the potential to blossom into a wild paranoia party,
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It does have that potential. Of course that potential is not exclusive of this one general topic about parasites alone.
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and i sometimes doubt that everyone here is thinking clearly
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Well I have no doubts about that. I'm SURE that many here are not thinking clearly. I mean, how could one, when one's feeling sick and has no absolute clue as to how to fix the problem, specially when doctors can't/won't do anything about it?
I understand the posters here intimately, because the same thing happened to me once.
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and wonder if the fixation on parasites isn't sometimes a symptom of a much larger problem rather than the real ultimate problem itself.
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Could be.
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Like maybe unresolved childhood abuse or even D.I.D
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Scientifically I MUST discard the possibility of "unresolved child abuse" or "mind-related" problems, when I look under the microscope and I see a bunch of pathogens that aren't supposed to be there according to Science but that are visible anyway. No emotion there.
I mean, it could well be some kind of emotional issue, but it could NOT be. That is why I never assume anything either way and I perform all the tests that I can. But of course not everyone does that.
Besides, what do I tell a patient that comes to me with a bunch of symptoms and some funny strand of "hair-like" structure clearly visible and sticking out of his/her arm from within? That it's a childhood issue or some emotional imbalance? On which hard facts would I say such a thing without ignoring the obvious problem?
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-- and I'm just observing that what makes me feel unstable is the fuzzy area where I share beliefs with others here,
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As long as it's beliefs you're sharing, the area IS fuzzy scientifically speaking, but colloquially it's friendly chat and a way to share thoughts and feelings with one another, so we feel less alone and lonely in the planet.
If your instability arises from the assupmtion that all the beliefs mentioned here are stated by all posters as hard facts, then you're making a basic scientific mistake. If that is not the case, then you need not feel unstable, but enjoy the chat instead.
Personally, I come to these forums because I learned in the past that much valuable information can be gathered from the patients' unscientific stories. While such information doesn't come as facts from their experience, many times they're a starting point for an inner Process of Thought that who knows where it could lead.
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and worry i guess if vibrating too close to some others' frequency here won't cause me to absorb additional problems rather than cure the ones i arrived with.
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First of all, of course you know that you vibrate as close to others as you wish, so it's your choice alone. If you don't feel comfortable, you can just stand back a distance until and if you're comfortable.
Second, you can only absorb what you allow, according to your own emotional/intellectual strength. If you're considering the fear of absorbing "additional problems", then maybe there's a weakness inside of you that would allow for such a thing to happen.
As long as you remain objective, I don't see how there could be a problem.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 743,291>Second, you can only absorb what you allow, according to your own >emotional/intellectual strength. If you're considering the fear of absorbing >"additional problems", then maybe there's a weakness inside of you that would allow >for such a thing to happen.
I feel I must say this:
Not everyone grows appropriate emotional barriers or learns how to from their upbringing. It does not mean he/she is strong or weak -- it is an absence of an ability. Learning how to manage boundaries is something that many of us learn as adults, and many adults have yet to learn how. Again, that does not mean they are weak - it means they have lacked awareness, focus and instruction in how to separate self from others.
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This is a reply to # 743,382Hello.
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>Second, you can only absorb what you allow, according to your own >emotional/intellectual strength. If you're considering the fear of absorbing >"additional problems", then maybe there's a weakness inside of you that would allow >for such a thing to happen.
I feel I must say this:
Not everyone grows appropriate emotional barriers or learns how to from their upbringing. It does not mean he/she is strong or weak -- it is an absence of an ability. Learning how to manage boundaries is something that many of us learn as adults, and many adults have yet to learn how. Again, that does not mean they are weak - it means they have lacked awareness, focus and instruction in how to separate self from others.
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When I mention the word 'weakness' I mean to refer to a scientifically verifiable weakness, such as an unspecified weakness of any kind, a debilitation or a debilitating factor of sorts, pathogenic, physical, emotional, spiritual or otherwise, IF it can be verified.
I also mention it without the lightest intention of implying 'weakness or strength' in terms of personal abilities or achievements, far from it. Political correctness and social protocols are NOT part of my scientific vocabulary.
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Wow, this thread really blossomed and it's going to take some time for me to read through it all. Thanks axpr for taking the time to share all these observations, which are giving me much to think about. I'm sorry if anyone felt persecuted or judged by my lack of rapport, but what I was referring to about vibration and absorbing "problems" was a vulnerability for vicarious traumatization, which can be a consequence of empathic identification with a person who is ill or believes they are ill. At some point you HAVE to break rapport or everyone homogenizes to the same degree of "illness" and that's not the desired outcome of association. I guess the appropriate time and place to do that is NOT in front of the individuals with whom you're breaking rapport, however.
About the emotional origins of physical symptoms... I'm obviously not going about this in any sort of scientific manner, and perhaps it WOULD be interesting to research the clinical writings on the subject, but what I'm getting intuitively is that the relation could be that hosting "emotional parasites" could predispose us to physical infestation by weakening our immune system in such a way that it helps foster a parasite-friendly environment. By this logic illness can be seen to have both a physical AND emotional etiology. Regardless of whether the emotional cause preceeded the physical cause, the physical manifestation still requires a physical treatment, but unless you additionally address the predisposing emotional antecedent the individual is still at risk of reinfection. I'm reminded of Diane Zimberoff's approach to weight loss, "Trim Life," where she teaches that people won't be sucessful losing weight and keeping it off until the emotional reasons for overeating are addressed.
What's happening for me here is that I'm seeing the need to distinguish the metaphor from the thing itself. There are physical parasites, there are emotional parasites, there are mental parasites, and each one has its own cure according to its own nature, and a comprehensive approach would take each one into account.- Yes Yes Yes I totally agree! UserX
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This is a reply to # 746,117In order to eliminate emotional parasites, it is necessary to discipline the mind, which means taking time out of your regular daily activities to deliberately think positive thoughts, and train the mind to remain focused on them. Every time you catch yourself thinking a negative thought, immediately move your attention to positive things.
Remind yourself and your body that you are loved, you are joy, you are truth, you are whole, you are a Child of God/Nature/a higher vibration, and as such you are rightfully healthy. You are well, your body is a temple for higher conscious dwelling. You are love, you are powerful, you are prosperity, you are confident, you are integrity, you are wisdom, you are capable, etc. etc. Speak these things out loud to yourself.
When the critters send out chemicals that make you feel anxious, depressed, afraid, deliberately stretch your face into a big smile and hold the expression on your face. Feel what it does to your face and neck. Know that you are in charge of your body and it is up to you to create an environment that they cannot tolerate, so they will have to leave.
They thrive in the midst of negative emotions. Go to funny movies. Leave the serious political activist work to those who are physically stronger for now. Once you have complete control over all your thoughts, you can participate again, consciously, without becoming food for worms. If you have a sense of futility about the condition of the world and the state of political affairs, you will only add negative emotions to the situation.
Your task is to spend time out in nature, taking care of yourself until you have grounded yourself the ultimately reality eternal peace. Only from that place, can you be of valuable service.
Please forgive me, and remind of this, whenever I forget. I am learning to do it better, as I write this. Thank you for reading this forum.- Re: Yes Yes Yes I totally agree! apxr
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This is a reply to # 746,284Positive thoughts and attitudes in this kind of fight are true assets, in my opinion.
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This is a reply to # 746,117Hello alienbaby.
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Thanks axpr for taking the time to share all these observations, which are giving me much to think about.
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You're welcome.
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About the emotional origins of physical symptoms... I'm obviously not going about this in any sort of scientific manner, and perhaps it WOULD be interesting to research the clinical writings on the subject, but what I'm getting intuitively is that the relation could be that hosting "emotional parasites" could predispose us to physical infestation by weakening our immune system in such a way that it helps foster a parasite-friendly environment.
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I agree. It's possible.
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By this logic illness can be seen to have both a physical AND emotional etiology.
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True. My observations indicate that the 'emotional interaction' between the parasite and the host may be more complex than thought. I'm suspecting a bidirectional interaction, but I have no evidence of this yet.
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Regardless of whether the emotional cause preceeded the physical cause, the physical manifestation still requires a physical treatment, but unless you additionally address the predisposing emotional antecedent the individual is still at risk of reinfection. I'm reminded of Diane Zimberoff's approach to weight loss, "Trim Life," where she teaches that people won't be sucessful losing weight and keeping it off until the emotional reasons for overeating are addressed.
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Could be. Caution should come into mind in this regard, however, in my opinion.
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What's happening for me here is that I'm seeing the need to distinguish the metaphor from the thing itself. There are physical parasites, there are emotional parasites, there are mental parasites, and each one has its own cure according to its own nature, and a comprehensive approach would take each one into account.
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I have found through the years that by attacking the "physical parasites" the "other ones" tend to go away. Of this I have much evidence.
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This is a reply to # 746,285"My observations indicate that the 'emotional interaction' between the parasite and the host may be more complex than thought. I'm suspecting a bidirectional interaction, but I have no evidence of this yet."
I have no idea what you are getting at here and I would enjoy hearing you elaborate.
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Could be. Caution should come into mind in this regard, however, in my opinion.""
I don't have time to write extensively about his right now, because I have to go somewhere, but reading this is causing me to have thoughts about the importance of asking for assistance in purifying the soul braid...
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This is a reply to # 746,291Hello.
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"My observations indicate that the 'emotional interaction' between the parasite and the host may be more complex than thought. I'm suspecting a bidirectional interaction, but I have no evidence of this yet."
I have no idea what you are getting at here and I would enjoy hearing you elaborate.
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Well, I have read and heard a number of times the theories that seem to point out that 'parasites' may "affect" emotions, and/or that emotional states "affect" 'parasites'.
As I've gone along with my observations, I've started to picture the possibility that the interaction involves BOTH possibilities, but it could go far beyond that. Let me give you a simple example:
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Let's say that a patient is infested with several types of parasites. He[or she] is feeling tired all the time and sometimes depressed, among other symptoms, most of which we all know or heard of.
By receiving POSITIVE stimuli [external, probably some good news], the patient reacts in a positive fashion, releasing certain chemicals that may or may not "affect" one or all of the parasites at certain different levels. At that point in time, the patient feels "happiness" or "joy".
Immediately after, as a reactive response to this stimuli [positive or negative from the point of view of the parasite, most probably negative], the parasite exerts some type of [biochemical] reaction that is in consequence reflected back onto the host [the 'host' = the patient]. How it'd be reflected back onto the host we could only guess.
According to this 'reactive response', the host [the patient] may 'see'/feel his or her mood altered afterwards because of biochemical factors that are in part due to the reactive response of a certain type of parasite as an answer to the positive stimuli that the patient received externally to begin with. [an 'emotional hangover' afterwards?]
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This would be a simple bidirectional interaction that may be happening inside the host and in relation to his/her host-parasite relationship with the infesting organism.
In that example, IF in fact it were like that, it would be clear that the interaction between parasite and host is more complex than a simple emotional 'host affects parasite' or 'parasite affects host' argument. Because most actions are likely to produce [elastic] reactions, specially where biochemistry is concerned, maybe this interaction is in fact bidirectional as I'm suspecting. All data seems to be moving slowly towards this direction. However, so far it's all just ANOTHER theory.
Also, I may have noted:
- patient behaviour [gradient] in relation to parasitic infestations
- patient/disease [host/parasite] response to MUSIC during infestation/treatment
- patient's need for glucose AFTER/DURING positive stimuli
- parasites TENDING to hosts' lethargy?
- patient's NEED for certain types of psychotropic stimuli ["vices"?] during infestation
- overstimulation of "state of lethargy" [both parasite/host] during overfeeding
- mood changes related to certain chemical imbalances [later 'balanced' by some foods, unless infestation is too 'deep seated']
[outline the word "may" in 'MAY have noted'.]
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Could be. Caution should come into mind in this regard, however, in my opinion.""
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Because of this "complex interaction" that I suspect, then it would be quite possible that IF in fact overeating were caused by parasites [as a hypothesis], the "emotional reasons" for overeating could then be caused by the 'parasites'' chemical responses, just as the "emotional reasons" could well be a by-product of the process of overeating itself; all of that meaning that then it would be pointless to try to address emotional issues FIRST as a measure against overeating, because a vicious cycle could be reached, which is of course what happens to most people facing obesity.
This is NOT to say, of course, that parasites cause obesity. I have no data either way.
[Personally, I think that obesity IS A DISEASE caused by some pathogen(s). A good suspect location for these 'pathogens' would be somewhere in the integumentary system; that's where I'd start looking first if I had to work on that problem: I'm not sure what I've observed from those locations under the microscope, but there seems to be "something" there. I may have grown part of that "something" already, but there's no way to be sure of anything yet.]
[** I'd like to apologize to all readers for sounding so vague with these "somethings", but until I can identify 'them', that's just what they are to me, "something" [in lack of fancy terms]]
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Ok, no worries alienbaby :-)
I know that I have seen dead fluke parasites in recent past bowel movements after colon cleansing and parasite cleansing. Alot of liver fluke and A few dead roundworms after Liver Flushes also.
We have dogs in our household and live in a rural farm area.
Prior to this, I never saw anything unusual in my bowel movements accept pieces of undigested food -- but no parasites (accept some dead pinworms I passed after taking a bottle of Pinworm medication as a kid).
Wierdly enough, the morning after I had my last of 8 metal fillings replaced in my mouth, I also passed some more dead fluke worms and what looked like Tapeworm segments. My bowel movement that morning was also very BLACK.
It is what it is. I knew what they were from photographs-- and that dead parasites also float , whereas bowel movements sink. (unless there is alot of fat content in them)
Now I am again parasite cleansing as maintenance, and colon cleansing. I havnt seen anything yet in my bowel movements this time. I'ts been a year since all my silver fillings were removed too. I have read that methyl mercury in the body creates a good environment for parasites to thrive. Low Mercury levels don't kill you- but it does kill good bacteria and encourages candidas and parasites, etc.
Parasites - though seemingly Science fiction -- are alive and well in more people than you realize. I never would dream I had any until I did some Colon Cleanses because my stomach was strangly bloated for over a month.
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