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I am throughly confused about parasites. I understand that parsites can reak havoc on ones health and that getting rid of them might be worth the effort.
Nevertheless, it would seem that some diets that would make parasites worse and (therefore health worse) are actually healing. For instance, a raw, paleolithic diet has been touted by many as a health restoring regimen because of the enzymes provided by raw food (including raw meat). Karl Loren on his website talks about this extensively. We also know from people like Jordan Ruben (Garden of Life) that live foods provide substantial health benefits.
On the other hand, it has been reported time and again by vegetarians like Dr. Shultz that uncooked meat contains thousands of parasites. If this is the case, then why are raw foodist who include raw meat re-gaining thier health? Wouldn't they be over-run with parasites.
Maybe it is simply a function of everyone is different - and one diet will cause parasites in one person and restore health and vitality in another. Perhaps parasites are like cholesterol - the role of diet varies depending on the cholesterol pattern type. For most people, dietary reductions in cholesterol don't lower cholestoral; the main influence being insulin production via carbohydrate intake. Whereas for 30% of the population cholesterol is directly related to dietary intake.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Kind Regards, Scott
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- Re: Confusion over the role of diet ... Shelby
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This is a reply to # 65,852It may be in part due to the fact that everyone is different, but also the overall content of a raw diet that includes meat is far superior to the Standard American Diet (SAD) which would include packaged foods and lots of simple carbs as well as more fats in the form of fried foods, lots of hidden dairy products which bring in hormones and drugs, etc., etc. A piece of raw meat is a far cry from a piece of fried meat slathered with mayonnaise (eggs and added oil) and cheese and stuck between two pieces of nutritionally void white bread. And for every bite of empty calorie, you give up the capacity for that much living food. Which is better, one bite of white bread, or one bite of fresh raw broccoli? Now multiply that throughout the day. . . .
As for me, I've just recently started raw; you couldn't get me to touch a piece of raw meat with a ten-foot pole. The last fish I ate was several years ago on a fishing boat where some of the fish was prepared on board, and I kid you not, there were worms (nematodes) floating in the stew.
I don't do worms.
There is a lot of conflicting literature to consider when choosing to go raw.
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- Re: Confusion over the role of diet ... Jasmine
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This is a reply to # 65,854Hi
As I understand it, a raw diet helps to control parasites as the food passes through the gut too quickly for many parasites to get a grip, so I suppose raw meat, if eaten with LOTS of raw veggies would pass through quicker than normal and so cause fewer problems than a piece of steak eaten with fries. However, what is true is that human's stomach acid is many times weaker than that of a carnivore, which makes us very susceptible to parasites contained in meat.
Like Shelby, I am a vegan eating a mainly raw diet and would not EVER consider eating raw meat. Mind you, I don' t believe in killing for my food anyway. But that aside, I believe that raw meat would not be healthy for me.
Each to their own though and I guess that a raw omnivore would probably be much healthier than a cooked one.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Jasmine
- Re: Confusion over the role of diet Scott
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This is a reply to # 65,872Jasmine-
Thank you for your comments. Your comments reminded me of my nutritional/philosophical dogma that I have had to let go of in my search for health.
I have finally learned to let my body indicate what I should be eating. Intellectually, I don't support low meat diets. If it were not for our ancestor's killing and eating huge intakes of meat/fat we would not be here. Humans subsisted on carb intakes of around 25% for 2.5 million years. Who are we to now judge the very behaviors that guaranteed our survival?
Scientifically there is therapuetic value of elevated protein intakes on insulin levels, glucose control, and cholesterol. See the work of Loren Cordain and Bernard Wolfe. High Carb, Vegetarian diets do not provide therapuetic benefits on insulin/glucose regulation. For 25-50% of the population, high carb diets are a disaster. Basically vegetarian diets are very healthy for some, but not all people.
Having said all that, my own body Disagrees with my mind on diet. In spite of my scientific belief that low carb/high meat diets are the ideal diet for humans, my body has other notions. I feel best on low meat/high carb/low fat intakes - I require some meat but only a little. When I first discovered this I was so frustrated because I believe in low carb diets. But they made my health worse! So I had to leave my judgments out of it and eat a higher carb/low meat/low fat diet.
I had the amusing experience of dating a woman who was a vegetarian -that dispised meat. She hated the idea of eating meat and I love meat. No matter what she did as a vegetarian, she felt like hell and was overweight. After much internal struggle she decided to try to increase her meat consumption to see how she felt. She became slim and healthy by becoming a low carb meat eater and I have become healthy eating a low meat/high card diet. What a philosophical challenge for us. We ate the exact opposite of what we believed in and our bodies got healthier for it.
The body, not the brain is in charge.
Thanks again for your comments. Good luck.
Kind Regards, Scott- Re: Confusion over the role of diet c 22 y 2,177
- Have ? about paleo diet #162344
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This is a reply to # 65,902I will definately look into the authors mentioned who advocate raw meats in diet. I really know nothing about the Paleo diet, but it is my understanding from anthropological texts that the hunting and gathering diet consisted of a maximum of 20% meat, the rest coming from gathering, with the 20% meat being a high estimate as it depended upon the success of the hunts. How is animal protein superior to plant protein?
- Re: Confusion over the role of diet Scott
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- Re: Confusion over the role of diet ... Jasmine
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- Re: Confusion over the role of diet ... Shelby
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