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Only open minded people are capable of debate…
Closed minded people… are only capable of hate…
Open minded people… exchange ideas and views…
Closed minded people… are brainwashed and confused…
Each… so earnestly striving… the other to debunk…
Tempers flare… so much hot air… an atmosphere of funk…
And the bull you have to listen to… is just a bunch of junk…
So what’s the point of entering… a pissing contest with a skunk…
So tell me friend…what does freedom have to do with debate…
For I am free... and have no need… for argument and hate…
The one I need to conquer… is my own outrageous ego…
And I know that battle can be won… just by letting go…
It all has to do… with their seeking control…
They wish to impose their will on you…
They seek… to dominate your soul…
let em rant… and let em rave…
and let em have their way…
bottom line…Is you and I…
know exactly what needs be done…
and shall do it anyway…
so...
"it's a wonderful day in the neighborhood"
lol...
;-)
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This is a reply to # 562,264Just maybe imagine a world...
without instigators
thrashing aligators
diligent debator haters
and those shape-shifting capers
Just for a second think of the land...
like a pleasant afternoon day
iced lemonade sipped a slow way
seeing barefoot children play
you see even the sun bow down to pray
Just for a moment envision the human...
able to forgive and forgive again
able to stand and give a hand
able to respect himself yet remain a humble man
in control, patient, wise, just, grand
It can happen
I know it can
it can paint your world
in a hundred different colors
in a million shades of refuge
an ifinity of bliss and everlasting truth
yet only if you want it to
p e a c e
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- i want it to... "sometimes"... drofinnah
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This is a reply to # 562,298sometimes i simply wish to run away...
sometimes it seems impossible to love...
sometimes i just don't have the words say...
sometimes... i think i need a little shove...
sometimes i struggle... to make it through the day...
sometimes my world is right... when i am right...
sometimes everyting seems wrong... and i am wrong...
sometimes i have absolutely no desire to fight...
sometimes when i am at peace... i feel so strong...
sometimes tis best... my tongue to bite...
sometimes tis best... to listen to my heart...
sometimes i feel so helpless... and the world comes crashing in...
sometimes... i just don't know where i should start...
sometimes... my strength comes from a friend...
sometimes... i just don't know... what to do... or where to go...
sometimes... i feel so lost... forlorn...
sometimes... i wish to live forever...
sometimes... i wish i'd not been born...
sometimes... i wish i weren't so clever...
sometimes... my insane "ego" runs the show...
sometimes... i know who i am... and who is me...
sometimes... i forget...
sometimes... i so clearly see...
sometimes... i feel regret...
sometimes... i just let it be...
sometimes... there's war within my head...
sometimes... i just can't seem to win...
sometimes... my life is filled with dread...
sometimes... i find answers when i look within...
and that the times i find my closest... dearest friend...
- So Goes The Fall of Man & Dogs rudenski
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This is a reply to # 562,301The dog returns to his vomit
The killer to his crime
As for me I chase the wind
The second hand of time
When it all will end
Face to face with me
Looking down upon the race
Will I choose to stay or go
The dog in me he salivates
While slinking through the gate
So goes the fall of man & dogs
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This is a reply to # 562,302my dear friend rudy...
this doesn't sound like you...
i've never seen you so down...
i think i know what you're going through... (or have been through)...
also i think i know you well enough... to know you'll bounce back...
and it's like the old saying goes... "you can't keep a good man down"...- Re: So Goes The Fall of Man & Dogs rudenski
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This is a reply to # 562,303Each of us has a shadow side. I sometimes acknowledge its existence. The butterfly would never come out of his combe if she never experienced a transformation. I am not very grounded right now. I feel like letting go. Not of life but rather, recognizing the shadow side of me, letting go of that former me, I pray the butterfly will emerge. It is a little uncomfortable now...being stuck in this cacoon...but some day soon I hope a more loving kind man will emerge. I am looking back only to acknowledge that former man as the vehicle of the later man. Parts of me want to stay grounded to the former me but that shell of a man is gone. There is no life there at all. I hope the other me salutes the former me while flying by. I guess my poetry of late is just a snapshot of that looking back... A kind of closure..if you will. It is a little awkward looking at the shadow side, but
I needed the exercise to shake it off. I don't know why I did so in such a public way...but I must have needed this as well...
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- Re: So Goes The Fall of Man & Dogs drofinnah
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This is a reply to # 562,304letting go... sometimes that is the most difficult thing in the world for me to do...
seems i too have been in a spiritual slump of late...
sometimes i let people/life/negativity get to me... i just can't seem to help it... it just happens... but it seems i always learn something in the process... and your analogy of the butterfly emerging from the cacoon describes it best... the butterfly representing the spirit... and the cacoon represents the prison constructed by the "ego"... and how very descriptive that the butterfly must struggle to free itself from it's own self made prison...
i don't know about you... but i am happy that curezone has divided itself to take the debaters to a mirror site... it feels so much more peaceful here now... i think perhaps what we are experiencing is merely an adjustment period to becoming re-adapted to the peace and serenity... lol...
however... i'm reminded of another little story about the butterfly and the cacoon... how a person saw a butterfly struggling to free itself from it's cacoon... so in order to be helpful... very carefully tried removing pieces of the cacoon to enable the butterfly to be free... but in so doing the butterfly emerged deformed... in other words it takes the time and struggle for the butterfly to develope as it should... and there are somethings we just can't rush....
love you rudy...
take your time...
you're among friends...
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